AP Scaling and other DPS changes to the Warrior going up to PTS

[Sebb]

Agreed, maybe he is going to buff it up and then start all the pvp reductions in a last pass...

I'm we are right in the queue behind pyrodoms

[YobiRaion]

I disagree. Theres really no need to move it. The issue of fixing 51 BM/Para/RB can be done without FS.

51 RB is fixed by opening the AOTR buff to all elemental damage, not just bursts
51 para is fixed by adding a secondary buff to swift blades, or increasing the benefit it gives.
51 BM requires a lot more in the way of rotation fixes - FS is not the problem here.

Sorry Sebb but I think you've done this before, quoting a small part of someone's post and running into conclusions. (i find it quite annoying)
If you read my whole post you will easily see that despite the fact that I recognize Muntaqim's suggestion as a fair one I also suggest other - less complicated - ways of resolving this by looking into how you can give that extra dps to deep para, rb, bm specs that have 47 or more points in them.

Please don't quote one line of a four paragraph post. You are creating wrong impressions to people who didn't bother reading the original post.

ty and peace

[Sebb]

Sorry Sebb but I think you've done this before, quoting a small part of someone's post and running into conclusions. (i find it quite annoying)
If you read my whole post you will easily see that despite the fact that I recognize Muntaqim's suggestion as a fair one I also suggest other - less complicated - ways of resolving this by looking into how you can give that extra dps to deep para, rb, bm specs that have 47 or more points in them.

Please don't quote one line of a four paragraph post. You are creating wrong impressions to people who didn't bother reading the original post.

ty and peace

As much as I understand, most of the other three paragraphs had nothing to do with moving FS, and were going off on nerfing this or that and buffing other specs. The fact that I agreed with it was irrelevant to the fact that I disagreed that moving FS was a good idea.

If you feel I took your quote out of context I'll delete it, that's fine - but people quoting walls of text to say "QFT" is a peteeve of mine

[Atrius]

Hello everyone, I just finished another round of changes. I am hoping this change gets things back on track to narrowing the equality of the DPS souls so I can look at some across the board DPS buffs because I think right now that my target is a tad low. To explain what I mean, there are currently a couple of builds that are coming out ahead of the others, so once again I am pulling those back in hopes of doing an across the board push upwards without making those particular builds a problem. So the changes you should see very soon are listed below.

Champion

• Destroyer's Bearing now only triggers it's Attack Point off Physical attacks.

Riftblade

• Fiery Burst now has an 8 second cooldown.
• Icy Burst has become Icy Assault. It is now a Finisher that uses Weapon Damage but is not off the Global Cooldown.

• Also, I am currently working on the Fierce Strike issue.

Please keep posting feedback, even if it's the fact that you feel something does too little or too much damage. The goal is still to get the Warriors comparable in DPS. The parses I have been getting that show individual performance with ability break outs, as well as the raid parses showing DPS from different Callings in the same fight have been incredibly useful to me in trying to achieve this, please keep them coming.

[Blackblade]

Hello everyone, I just finished another round of changes. I am hoping this change gets things back on track to narrowing the equality of the DPS souls so I can look at some across the board DPS buffs because I think right now that my target is a tad low. To explain what I mean, there are currently a couple of builds that are coming out ahead of the others, so once again I am pulling those back in hopes of doing an across the board push upwards without making those particular builds a problem. So the changes you should see very soon are listed below.

Champion

• Destroyer's Bearing now only triggers it's Attack Point off Physical attacks.

Riftblade

• Fiery Burst now has an 8 second cooldown.
• Icy Burst has become Icy Assault. It is now a Finisher that uses Weapon Damage but is not off the Global Cooldown.

• Also, I am currently working on the Fierce Strike issue.

Please keep posting feedback, even if it's the fact that you feel something does too little or too much damage. The goal is still to get the Warriors comparable in DPS. The parses I have been getting that show individual performance with ability break outs, as well as the raid parses showing DPS from different Callings in the same fight have been incredibly useful to me in trying to achieve this, please keep them coming.

Hmmm, this changes dramatically how certain builds on PTS have been working (most using Icy Burst).

When you say your target is a "tad low", are you referring to Warrior DPS vs other classes that is low?

[paper]

This mean 40/26 is the top damage two hand spec again? Seems likely.

[Blackblade]

This mean 40/26 is the top damage two hand spec again? Seems likely.

Very likely since it was the only spec that did not use O-GCD finishers. Despite the nerfs to BM crystal and initial hit for bleed attacks, 40 / 26 seems to be top.

I was parsing circa 3k IIRC.

[paper]

Very likely since it was the only spec that did not use O-GCD finishers. Despite the nerfs to BM crystal and initial hit for bleed attacks, 40 / 26 seems to be top.

I was parsing circa 3k IIRC.

Yea I was around ~3-3.1k self buffed and ~3.9-4k raid buffed as I recall.

[Blackblade]

Seems like we are back to the purple cat again. A 2 BM variant with 51 CH might still be viable but I am not holding my breath on it.

I can forsee the forum QQ coming very shortly on these changes.

[Haasome]

From what I see w/ the latest tweaks we will still be trailing rogues pretty easily... dunno about mage/cleric...

just a random thought since I have not had the chance to pts w/ latest round yet.

[intrinsc]

He also says that he is trying to bring every build in line with one another, as close as he can, so he can boost them together before 1.8 is released. I am no cynical, so I will put people's word before anything, specially someone in charge of the calling I play, regardless of being a game or not, so I have faith in Atrius.

[Kiika]

Its looking like ill be shelving my warrior come 1.8 it seems our class is in shambles in both pve and pvp with no clear direction.

[intrinsc]

Its looking like ill be shelving my warrior come 1.8 it seems our class is in shambles in both pve and pvp with no clear direction.

Such a shame that the warrior class still has such fickle players still.

[Sualifa]

Nice work so far Atrius! I like how you think, multiple high-end builds is cool goal. Looking forward to seeing the result.

Its looking like ill be shelving my warrior come 1.8 it seems our class is in shambles in both pve and pvp with no clear direction.

Heh, it's funny how I had the exact opposite reaction. I'm going to be playing my warrior more if this works out.

[Pipedreams]

Its looking like ill be shelving my warrior come 1.8 it seems our class is in shambles in both pve and pvp with no clear direction.

PTS testing - not for the shortsighted.