Val's Guide to DW 38 Para/22 Champ/6 RB (Max Follow Up DPS/Harder Rotation)

[Fatalflaw]

Just for the record, if all you're comparing is macro spam vs controlled followup, try the spam macro without hurricane in it. For whatever reason it lowers my dps by 50-100 even though on paper it shouldn't. This was brought up way back in Kutsuu's 1.3 DPS thread. Hurricane only seems to be a dps increase when it crits, and it seems like it rarely does without paired strike.

Way of the mountain comes out 100 dps or so lower on the dummy for me, but seems to almost break even in raids.

[MiO]

I'm just gonna bump this thread here, dont want DW lost to the forum abyss.

Got my two dps 1hs, looking forward to wednesday for the whetstone fix on live.

[herlpderp]

Why not just remove non GCD from AP builder macro and dump it in finisher macro?

Consdering 1.5, you will only have frenzied strike. And even then, there is a chance ever 6 seconds that you could overwrite your next follow up attack proc in a raid environment.

[Thirdstringhero]

This may have been addressed, but I haven't bothered reading the rest of the thread:

How come frenzied strike is under dual strike? O.o

[rofltehcat]

Why not just remove non GCD from AP builder macro and dump it in finisher macro?

Consdering 1.5, you will only have frenzied strike. And even then, there is a chance ever 6 seconds that you could overwrite your next follow up attack proc in a raid environment.

This is how I did it before and how I still do it. With Frenzied on Dual Strike, there is a chance that you ruin your followup. However, this decreased the amount of Frenzied Strikes by around 25% compared to another warrior (1 macro playstyle) in my raid.

new rotation will always parse higher
dunno how you scrubs didnt think of this before :P

Actually I think that many thought of this before but it wasn't really worth it until warriors managed to run smooth rotations, the 2H Para build really helped with that and gave us the needed training. If the rotation isn't executed very well, this may lead to a DPS loss or only very minimal gain. By running the rotation manually, there are only 150 DPS or so to gain whereas 2hand Para profits a lot more from a clean rotation. But messing up the rotation quickly pushes you below macro DPS, so there is less to gain and more to lose compared to 2hand Para.

Also... we're lazy ;)
One of the selling points for going DW Para was for quite some time that you could just lazily spam a single macro and still be very close to the max DPS possible with those onehanders.

[Valthirus]

This is how I did it before and how I still do it. With Frenzied on Dual Strike, there is a chance that you ruin your followup. However, this decreased the amount of Frenzied Strikes by around 25% compared to another warrior (1 macro playstyle) in my raid.




Actually I think that many thought of this before but it wasn't really worth it until warriors managed to run smooth rotations, the 2H Para build really helped with that and gave us the needed training. If the rotation isn't executed very well, this may lead to a DPS loss or only very minimal gain. By running the rotation manually, there are only 150 DPS or so to gain whereas 2hand Para profits a lot more from a clean rotation. But messing up the rotation quickly pushes you below macro DPS, so there is less to gain and more to lose compared to 2hand Para.

Also... we're lazy ;)
One of the selling points for going DW Para was for quite some time that you could just lazily spam a single macro and still be very close to the max DPS possible with those onehanders.

QFT. It's the same like RW. You can put Off GCDs in the Finisher or in the AP Builder and lose some.

[Mathom]

Make sure to hit SLI right as DS is about to come off cooldown so you have as much time as possible.

Im a noob, so i got a question:

DS has no CD (beside gcd) and SLI is on gcd, right? i dont understand what u want to tell us with that sentence.

I would understand ur point if u said:

Make sure to hit Finisher Macro right as DS is about to come off cooldown so you have as much time as possible.

Because FB is off GCD it makes sence to activate it as late as possible.

Is that what u ment, or am i wrong?

[Sharogy]

due to server lag it is impossible to have a perfect 12 second rotation, hence the last follow up used in this rotation will be still in GCD when sli ends,.

the point is to activate new sli as soon as GCD ends, and not before, as it will jam up on the timer for the next rotation.

[Keota]

You do good work Val, courtesy bump inc.

[Valthirus]

due to server lag it is impossible to have a perfect 12 second rotation, hence the last follow up used in this rotation will be still in GCD when sli ends,.

the point is to activate new sli as soon as GCD ends, and not before, as it will jam up on the timer for the next rotation.

What Sharogy said!

[Sebb]

Happen to have any target parses for 34 /44 dps weapons w/ Syn crystal?

[Kopetzki]

Happen to have any target parses for 34 /44 dps weapons w/ Syn crystal?

with 2 44ps 1 handers and a synnergy crystel i get anywhere from 1850-1900ish on the dummys, Now this is with the cold heart as well and i find it easier to keep the stacks up on it with this rotation, usually adds abotu 70 dps for me on the dummys compared to 30 ish with the 2h build.

[DionysusCrucia]

I've been having a hard time getting 4 followup attacks in when at ranged, no problem in melee range, odd issue

I'm thinking its having flamespear at the bottom of the macro and how ques work, anyone else having similar issues? Just trying to min/mix for Estrode

[Serashen]

I've been having a hard time getting 4 followup attacks in when at ranged, no problem in melee range, odd issue

I'm thinking its having flamespear at the bottom of the macro and how ques work, anyone else having similar issues? Just trying to min/mix for Estrode

You're not 100% range on estrode, are you?

[DionysusCrucia]

It depends on what souls she has, thats how my guild does it

I end up at ranged quit often

Moving flamespear to its own button solved the problem