Why change war stats back to live version!?!?!?!

[Leganie]

Why?!?!?! This is stupid I geared my warrior with plate...... I feel me and the many others who properly geared should not be punished for this!!!!! I want str as our prime stat I DONT WANT LEATHER AS BiS cause of some idiots crying..... change war to be a war and not just a rogue jesus if i wanted a rogue id lvl one!!!!!!!! TRION MAKE WARRIOR WORK OFF STR I WANT A GOOD USE FOR MY DPS PLATE GEAR!!!!!!!!!!! Also some 1 handed weapons with str would be nice other then just the warmaster one. AND YES I DO PVP SO DONT FLAME ME THINKING I DONT!

[Fatalflaw]

I'm not directing this at you, OP, but I think it's funny because of the people who came out of te woodwork saying "SEE! I stacked strength on my warrior since beta because I knew it was the warriors stat!"

So yeah..wonder what those people have to say now.

The change was kinda stupid anyway because they just introduced plate that favored dex and there is a lack of accessories and 1h/ranged weapons that favor strength. Plus the fact that some leather was still going to be BiS unless you planned on using titan and ravenous strength in your dps build.

[Leganie]

I have some rogue based gear but only 1 leather piece... And no dex is the better stat since release imo. And yes DH armor does help with this however, the Dehl's gear is worthless to get. But hey that is how i feel.

[Gomba]

I bet 100 % that the reason is due to Ravenous STR

[Fatalflaw]

I bet 100 % that the reason is due to Ravenous STR

I figured the same. They need to figure out how to make it tank-only then they'll let us stack strength..

[intrinsc]

Ravenous STR builds would have been terrible. I tried a bunch on PTS, and you give up very necessary trees to sustain high-end DPS. Trion should have also tested this. My best Ravenous STR build came up to like 995 ST. It was dumb.

[Fatalflaw]

It also might have been due to complaints from people having to regear. That's more of a change they should make right when a new tier of raid/pvp content is released so people don't get sh#t on right after they spent favor, plaques, dkp etc..

[Dawg of Georgia]

It also might have been due to complaints from people having to regear. That's more of a change they should make right when a new tier of raid/pvp content is released so people don't get sh#t on right after they spent favor, plaques, dkp etc..

I would have to agree with this as well. The problem was poor timing. They just released the 1.4 crafted gear a few weeks ago without any mention of these upcoming changes. And that gear is expensive to make. That, and the fact that a lot of people were gear swapping with PvP/Plaque/Mark gear, and then there are the sigils. They should have made these changes prior to Hammerknell and the 1.4 crafts and released with re-itemized gear to reflect those changes. Doing it how they were was just stupid.

[intrinsc]

It also might have been due to complaints from people having to regear. That's more of a change they should make right when a new tier of raid/pvp content is released so people don't get sh#t on right after they spent favor, plaques, dkp etc..

So? You think it's going to get easier with time when people invest MORE? lol

[Dawg of Georgia]

So? You think it's going to get easier with time when people invest MORE? lol

I think Trion will do these changes either with a level increase so everyone is going to get different gear anyways, or they will retool current stats allocations on gear to correlate with the changes.

[Ekso]

However Bash, Flinching Strike and Face Slam still don't have dmg, and offgcd reactives have internal cooldown, so all of us still nerfed both in PvE and in PvP ;)

[neandramathal]

I think it's a mix of "hmm, how will this affect all those +str skills" and "Too many people moaning about regear and itemization".

I've always taken plate and warrior appropriate stuff, just short of P8 I thought it was about time to start thinking about building a second (So I would still retain my plate, just incase) set to maximise DPS then saw the changes and thought "Oooo, no need!". Even though I know this change will STILL hit in the future, I'm still probably going to do that dex heavy sigil.

In the long run the regear problem will be worse as a result. I myself won't be regearing so much as alternate gearing, preparing for both eventualities.

Other than the stat distribution on some bits of gear (it swapped what was BiS leather to different places thats all) being a real pain when at the crit cap, I was very much looking forward to the change.

[Leganie]

Better to regear now is exactly what needs to happen. I do not want to see this happen 6 months from now. And really a level increase? That's the last thing that needs to happen screw grinding. Raiding is plenty of pve. Make some kinda benefit from pvp for over all char buffing. even if it is just a very minor amount. Also level increasing is stupid I did not come to rift to play WoW or FFXI or any other MMO. Do the change, give pvper's a lil love, and like a 75-100% refund on there gear to make them stop crying. And yes pvper's spent more time gearing out then any raider

[Gaylonn]

If Trion made this decision because of the idiots crying about having to regear their leather into plate then Trion lost what little credibility they had.

The stat system has been ****ed for Warriors since the start........Trion knows it.....we know it. Refusing to fix it because of something as lame as people crying cause they might have to regear (its a MMO afteralll) some is not the right thing to do. It needs to be fixed ........the sooner the better.

If the decision is because of the net result of some things like VK Rav STR then I can understand but somehow based on Trions love of caving to QQs I doubt that is the case.

I love this game but this is a huge step backwards IMO. I do not respect companies that cannot do the correct thing when its needed because they are scared of what a few idiots might 'threaten' to do.

[Daglar]

I bet 100 % that the reason is due to Ravenous STR

Hi Gomba,

I just wanted to pop in and say that the Ravenous Strength was not the reason for the change back. We ran the numbers with Ravenous Strength internally before the changes even went onto PTS and it really wasn't a blip on the radar of concerns with the very large change we were considering.

~Daglar