Why change war stats back to live version!?!?!?!

[Dawg of Georgia]

http://forums.riftgame.com/rift-gene...dps-issue.html

Read and rejoice at how 7 months of mechanics are fixed with simply re-stating.

Geezus will you please quit spamming this crap. Your idea is utter failure. Trion is on the right track with the stat re-allocation, it just needs to be done right, and not in a 3 week time span. Those stat changes have huge repurcusions to every aspect of the game, including gear, talents and abiltities. I rather take more time and do it right rather than putting in a big cluster **** with limited testing.

[rofltehcat]

They probably should just increase AP scaling on abilities. Would make AP and Str worth it and would prevent balance issues.
Most balance changes we got and get were because our scaling system is utter BS. Base damage of abilities is far too high and AP contribution to abilities is far too low.

[Easby]

Geezus will you please quit spamming this crap. Your idea is utter failure. Trion is on the right track with the stat re-allocation, it just needs to be done right, and not in a 3 week time span. Those stat changes have huge repurcusions to every aspect of the game, including gear, talents and abiltities. I rather take more time and do it right rather than putting in a big cluster **** with limited testing.

Lets be fair... They got it wrong. Have for 7 months.
An idea that appeases all aspects of the masses is never going to be a Failure... u my friend are just a little young and need somewhere to vent your hormones. Fine. get it out son.

We all rather they get it right, but obviously they are not sure how to change game mechanics to suit the purpose of the change. . . Hence jsut changing DPS armor to be more DPS based rather than taking on tanking traits.

Its not rocket science, its not difficult to see, and by no means is it worth a teenage tantrum becos it doesnt suit you.

[neandramathal]

Geezus will you please quit spamming this crap. Your idea is utter failure. Trion is on the right track with the stat re-allocation, it just needs to be done right, and not in a 3 week time span. Those stat changes have huge repurcusions to every aspect of the game, including gear, talents and abiltities. I rather take more time and do it right rather than putting in a big cluster **** with limited testing.

I agree with this, that "simple stat reallocation" has so many side effects...

...if it was really that simple do you honestly think you would be the first person to think of it? That 7 months would have gone by and no other forum poster OR dev would've thought "hey lets redo the stat allocation on gear that's epic fix!" ..... no ofc not.

[Easby]

I agree with this, that "simple stat reallocation" has so many side effects...

...if it was really that simple do you honestly think you would be the first person to think of it? That 7 months would have gone by and no other forum poster OR dev would've thought "hey lets redo the stat allocation on gear that's epic fix!" ..... no ofc not.

with all due respect. to answer the question you pose.. I think its a bit no, and a bit yes. Yes i think they thought we need to do something and we now have DH dex/crit plate. I dont think they considered respecing plate simply due to having the motive to change the mechanic's in mind.

I think they are hell bent on new content and trying to figure out how to fix STR without buffing war to high heavens..

Keep in mind that in Beta people were already asking about the str/dex debate. This truely isnt a new debate. This is simply why i am so sarcastic in the response. The idea is solid and ticks all boxes. Or at least a stop gap that does piss everyone off every patch

[Soulsurfing]

I figured the same. They need to figure out how to make it tank-only then they'll let us stack strength..

VK is important in PVP for several reasons. I would not see it nerfed.

[Pricia]

I just really wish they had done this from the start... What a big mess this is.

There would be a lot of angry players if they changed it now. But yes, people who use their armor are penalized and it's not fair either. I hope that they manage to put this change through soon, without alienating their players somehow.

[Natir]

You guys test things internally?

I'm shocked.

Guess all those warriors who bought that plate gear are still SOL. :P

[Puzzlebox]

Guess all those warriors who bought that plate gear are still SOL. :P

I have both sets pretty much.

It's just that sigil that's going to get on my nerves.

[solarbear]

I just really wish they had done this from the start... What a big mess this is.

There would be a lot of angry players if they changed it now. But yes, people who use their armor are penalized and it's not fair either. I hope that they manage to put this change through soon, without alienating their players somehow.

This^^

In beta the absurdity of dex>str was pointed out. It wasn't fixed. Now we have 1.5 and every aspect of our class in disarray.

[Skaldiir]

Well with the oGCD nerf, surely theres only gonna be a handful of viable specs now anyway:

- Beast/Champ
- 51 Rift/champ
- 51 Rift/champ/vk

Both of which having stacking str/ap will do you no harm.

[Kruunch]

Hi Gomba,

I just wanted to pop in and say that the Ravenous Strength was not the reason for the change back. We ran the numbers with Ravenous Strength internally before the changes even went onto PTS and it really wasn't a blip on the radar of concerns with the very large change we were considering.

~Daglar

Play test ftw.

Sigh.

[Techie Will]

Trion,

Reconsider reverting back to Strength giving Crit. Let us warriors that stacked plate gear and AP/Strength because YOU told us to, not because the community thought it was best.

You highlighted out "best" stats in 1.4, which is Strength and AP. So let us see why you want us to stack it. After testing on the PTS during the period where the stats were normalized, things were going great. I'm not the type of warrior that stacked the dex heavy gear or leather, but rather I stacked the strength gear you offered to us.

Please consider going through with the changes and let us warriors be our own class with our own stats and gear, like you're doing with the other three classes.

[herlpderp]

str giving 1ap per point and .25 crit, plz go.

[Karsazilla]

I love the changes to str(1 crit, .5ap) dex(.5ap) per point for warriors, it finally set things right.