Exquisite whetstones bugged?

[rofltehcat]

Ok, my tests (backwards since I found a little inconsistency, removed the whetstones with 3End+10Fireresist):

Tests done completely unbuffed, Ability: Dual Strike
2x4DPS Whetstones -> 786
1x4DPS Whetstone on Mainhand -> 772
1x4DPS Whetstone on Offhand (cleansed and reapplied, didn't switch weapons) -> 772
No Whetstones -> 757
Inconsistency: When Applying the Whetstone to the offhand, I crit for 764 once, then consistently for 772. Also had this the first time applying a Whetstone to the Mainhand (this is why I did the tests once more backwards). The strange thing is that I could have sworn that my damage without Whetstones was 764, too, on the first run and it dropped to 757 on the second (backwards run) but I didn't write it down on the first run.

Overall it feels strange.
Shard: Brutwacht, BTW

[lameboi]

Ok, my tests (backwards since I found a little inconsistency, removed the whetstones with 3End+10Fireresist):

Tests done completely unbuffed, Ability: Dual Strike
2x4DPS Whetstones -> 786
1x4DPS Whetstone on Mainhand -> 772
1x4DPS Whetstone on Offhand (cleansed and reapplied, didn't switch weapons) -> 772
No Whetstones -> 757
Inconsistency: When Applying the Whetstone to the offhand, I crit for 764 once, then consistently for 772. Also had this the first time applying a Whetstone to the Mainhand (this is why I did the tests once more backwards). The strange thing is that I could have sworn that my damage without Whetstones was 764, too, on the first run and it dropped to 757 on the second (backwards run) but I didn't write it down on the first run.

Overall it feels strange.
Shard: Brutwacht, BTW

strangely bugged,because that is certainly not enough damage for whetstones ;)

[rofltehcat]

Further Tests:
Completely unbuffed, Searing Strike
51RB15Ch:
0 Whetstones: 605;
1x4DPS Whetstone: 614
2x4DPS Whetstone: 621

38Para/22Ch/6 RB:
0 Whetstones: 687
1x4DPS Whetstone: 696
2x4DPS Whetstone: 705

More Tests:
51RB15Ch, unbuffed, Searing Strike, LGS relic dagger in offhand:
0 Whetstone: 585 with 33.6 DPS dagger (1.8) in Mainhand, 585 with 34 DPS axe (2.4) in Mainhand;
1x4DPS Whetstone on Mainhand: 592 with dagger, 594 with axe
2x4 DPS Whetstone: 601 with dagger, 598 with axe

Ok, now I'm extremely confused O.o

[Freethinker]

Stone DO bugg out sometimes. I have to zone/relog in order to get my HP bonus from the stone. I have no idea if this is related to this problem though.

[StrikeQ]

Before = Last Week. After = Last night (Where I've gone up ~120 AP from the previous raid). Posting 3 bosses I tend to parse really well on consistently (Aside from Murd as I was testing 51RB on him last night so nothing to compare too)

Infiltrator:
Before -
Dual Strike: 1973
Frenzied: 2041
Raptor: 3160

After -
Dual Strike: 1846
Frenzed: 1881
Raptor: 2891

Warmaster
Before -
Dual Strike: 1974
Frenzed: 1987*
Raptor: 3314

After -
Dual Strike: 1928
Frenzed: 1987*
Raptor: 3063

* Identical values, though after should be higher due to the increase in AP

Plutonus
Before -
Dual Strike: 1898
Frenzed: 1944
Raptor: 3079

After -
Dual Strike: 1918
Frenzed: 1977
Raptor: 3085

Plutonus is the only parse that it seems stones were working at all, and it was definitely not 5 weapon dps increase.

[Elwins]

I notice same, they do work but not as high as should

[Puzzlebox]

Mikey, way to bring this to light and ruin the market for my vast Whetstone manufacturing empire.

HOW AM I GONNA PAY BACK MY GUILDIE THE 200P I BLEW FOR THE COOL COSTUME HELM?!

[lameboi]

Mikey, way to bring this to light and ruin the market for my vast Whetstone manufacturing empire.

HOW AM I GONNA PAY BACK MY GUILDIE THE 200P I BLEW FOR THE COOL COSTUME HELM?!

;P what guild you in now?

[Puzzlebox]

;P what guild you in now?

Still in Affinity. still 100% pvpin

[tordana]

Still in Affinity. still 100% pvpin

No you aren't in Affinity!

...Oh wait. God dammit why are there two guilds named Affinity.

[Cromagis]

No whetstones: 1342
fine whetstones: 1326
exquisite whetstones: 1352

How did they manage to screw up something they didnt even touch.

They're the only game company that can successfully BUFF a class they were trying to NERF.

Your not really asking this, are you?

[Rizaz]

Current theory is it is adding +5 damage instead of +5dps ala pre-nerf whetstones adding +12 damage.


+5 dps is roughly equal to ~ +12 damage. So when your +5 dps is actually +5 damage, you're seeing whetstons effect nerfed to ~40% of what it used to be.

[lameboi]

Current theory is it is adding +5 damage instead of +5dps ala pre-nerf whetstones adding +12 damage.


+5 dps is roughly equal to ~ +12 damage. So when your +5 dps is actually +5 damage, you're seeing whetstons effect nerfed to ~40% of what it used to be.

i honestly don't even think it's +5 damage.

[Fatalflaw]

Current theory is it is adding +5 damage instead of +5dps ala pre-nerf whetstones adding +12 damage.


+5 dps is roughly equal to ~ +12 damage. So when your +5 dps is actually +5 damage, you're seeing whetstons effect nerfed to ~40% of what it used to be.

Not even close.

They seem to have completely messed up the way the whetstone buff is calculated and it is not acting like + weapon damage at all anymore. It is adding a straight +5 damage to an ability.

Example:
Fine Whetstone = +4DPS
Searing Strike Crit without whetstone -> 500 damage
Searing Strike Crit w/ Fine whetstone -> 506 damage

It is adding +4 damage to the ability, which is absolutely nothing. Take a 29DPS weapon and a similar 33 dps weapon and tell me how much the same attack jumps in damage. A hell of a lot more than the stones currently add, that's for sure.

I'm on Gnarlwood, I've tested this on multiple weapons and used multiple souls and it always comes out as a 6 damage difference on a crit with a fine whetstone. Other people got identical results on my shard.

[Rizaz]

Ah. Sounds like a plausible bug.