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    Quote Originally Posted by lameboi View Post
    Regarding the riftblade greater:

    yes a static 31 DPS is nice (as that's what this greater will be for every encounter, sometimes a little more based on how many reactives your spec has within it) but it definitely does not make up for the stat loss of losing crit/ap/dex/str. The rb greater would have to work out to about 50-60 dps in order for me to lose stats everywhere to take it. I've been giving this quite a bit of thought lately and I still do not think any of these greaters are worth what they cost.

    If it was 61 dmg :P I'd take it, but it's not. so i probably won't be.
    Good assessment. The only case that this stone might be useful is in PvP when your 2.5k critical bursts hit clerics/mages for 780 damage and your greater is still doing its "stellar" 31 damage...woohoo!
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    Hey lameboi, what essences have you stacked in your sigil? I figure you are using the 2 water and 2 death that you can buy from the vendor, how bout the other two? Necrotic rage worth using in your opinion? Curious as to the overall stats your sigil provides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heebs View Post
    Hey lameboi, what essences have you stacked in your sigil? I figure you are using the 2 water and 2 death that you can buy from the vendor, how bout the other two? Necrotic rage worth using in your opinion? Curious as to the overall stats your sigil provides.
    i am using the purchasable essences + two drops (one water, one death).

    necrotic rage, if you still have it in your bank and not equipped, would definitely be a great addition to this spec. i've overwritten it twice, however, and cannot get it back haha.

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    i actually also took the crit stacked AP essences and the even ones. (which death and water are). i didn't want to lose too much crit while doing this. my sigil gives me +95 str, +110 dex, +63 AP, +46 death, +67 water. (world event sigil +20 water)

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    works out to 918 AP and 776 crit (29.42% base, 32.42% w/ paragon buff, which is a great starting point as i get to 51% raid buffed in combat w/o crit consumables).
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    Lameboi, what jewelry items are you using? I have almost identical gear to you, and I can only get to 901AP/673 crit. That's completely unbuffed, not even self buffs. Str is 548, Dex is 461. You have like 100 more crit than me, and about the same AP...I don't know where you're getting the crit from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bear_on_the_job View Post
    Lameboi, what jewelry items are you using? I have almost identical gear to you, and I can only get to 901AP/673 crit. That's completely unbuffed, not even self buffs. Str is 548, Dex is 461. You have like 100 more crit than me, and about the same AP...I don't know where you're getting the crit from.
    two str/crit HK items, doesn't account for 100 crit though. also the gp str/crit neck
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    Quote Originally Posted by lameboi View Post
    two str/crit HK items, doesn't account for 100 crit though. also the gp str/crit neck
    You have to realize that the hit is probably the biggest component of those rings. You are able to replace a bunch of +hit runes with dex runes instead to gain more crit. That should also help with the crit difference youre seeing between you and lameboi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heebs View Post
    You have to realize that the hit is probably the biggest component of those rings. You are able to replace a bunch of +hit runes with dex runes instead to gain more crit. That should also help with the crit difference youre seeing between you and lameboi.
    na i use a pvp dagger
    anything i can rune for hit, is runed for hit. heh. one dag is +13 hit, the helm/legs are +18 hit +5 ap
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    I dont have an AP sigil, counting 325 hit set for HK i have around 860AP 760 crit unbuffed. Not realy sure if i should lower crit more. Tough my sigil has bm greater so could have a use from 1 more stat esence. As for weapons i can have either Sylvan or hylas dagger + R8sword/dagger. Also in BM i reach 320 hit with r8 2hnader making gap even more
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    2hander always parses significantly higher for me. Even then, I am not reaching to the numbers you have.


    I guess ~120AP makes THAT big of a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by herlpderp View Post
    2hander always parses significantly higher for me. Even then, I am not reaching to the numbers you have.


    I guess ~120AP makes THAT big of a difference.
    im grinding for the r8 axe now to test it out. i outparse my sylvan w/ my 44 dagger but thats not really fair i guess cuz the dagger is a tier above the sylvan. then again my off hand is a 34 dps dagger so dunno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lameboi View Post
    im grinding for the r8 axe now to test it out. i outparse my sylvan w/ my 44 dagger but thats not really fair i guess cuz the dagger is a tier above the sylvan. then again my off hand is a 34 dps dagger so dunno.
    I outparse my 44dps 1hander and noxious maul W/ 44dps 2hander w/ raid buffs. On dummy, 2hander falls short 20-30DPS compared to DW...
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    Quote Originally Posted by herlpderp View Post
    I outparse my 44dps 1hander and noxious maul W/ 44dps 2hander w/ raid buffs. On dummy, 2hander falls short 20-30DPS compared to DW...
    R8 axe vs R8 Dagger + Murdantix sword. 2h out parsed it some of the time. But I didn't bother to do a whole range of tests to get a better baseline with the various crit rate between parses, and not 15 para vs champ either.

    With dual wield you gain ~ 140 DPS from auto attacks. You lose ~200 dmg a swing per ability however. Or the 2 tests I did showed that.
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    i'll still feel like DW would have the edge in raid due to the range capabilities.
    fights like plutonus, murdantix, sicaron would probably give the edge to 2h if what you guys are saying is true. I'll be testing as I go and relaying results here.

    earlier today i pulled 1677 w/ DW and no bard.. highest parse solo by far. had alot more crits than i usually do though.
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    hm, i've gotta give the edge to DW after parsing with my sylvan. 100dps difference for me in favor of DW.

    dw = 44.7? pvp dagger
    2h = sylvan greatblade.
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    i dont think an upgrade of your offhand weapon would push your dps noticeably since all your attacks are based on your mainhand - so only the dmg of your offhand autoattacks would be increased.

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