Warrior PvP Build Compendium

[DaseinNJ]

So for this spec, which I like to run in the WFs, what is the use of the "ctrl" command that I see in your macros? I've also never seen the "use" command in a macro? What does that do?

Also, I assume that you want to add the SLI and FB macro to this from your 44 Para build?

And finally, when you say use BltR whenever you can, are you just spamming it when it's off CD, or are you saving it for when you are rushing in to fight a mage or cleric?

The ctrl command is a modifier. It makes death touch only go off if I'm holding control while spamming the button. That way I don't have to have it in a separate bind (which is a pain in the *** cause its a follow-up) but I can choose to not put it up if my target will die before 8 seconds.

I hit BLtR whenever it is up and the target is tough. I don't save it for melee. As for the macros, I only listed them if they required changes from the ones above them. SLI->FB should be used in any build with 2pt riftblade.

[Chrompower]

Pretty much just the highest DPS possible. However, I like the rank 6 daggers better than the rank 6 swords even tough there is a 0.4 dps difference just because I like to stack as much crit as I can and the swords have AP.

Thank you. Than I will take the daggers, even if a dwarf warrior looks pretty stupid with them

[Shinigam1]

Yeah, I was just thinking a macro dedicated to paired strike might be a very good idea. You don't want to waste it's procs on reactives.

Maybe just:

#show paired strike
cast paired strike
cast path of the hurricane
cast path of the raptor
cast dual strike

That way you're sure to use your paired strike to max effect.

Iirc, paired strike can only affect followups anyway, or do you mean shifting blades?

[DaseinNJ]

Iirc, paired strike can only affect followups anyway, or do you mean shifting blades?

Yeah it only effects followups but if you do a reactive after a non follow up it doesn't let you do the follow up since the reactive didnt generate an attack point. You should still do 3 followups in the 15 second window but it just wouldn't have the same burst as making sure you get all 3 of them in ASAP.

It'd also be cool to use it after shifting like you alluded to. BLtR->3pts->pop up shifting hit that paired strike macro then hit your normal spam macro to do all the reactives you've built up and your target should be dead.

[DaseinNJ]

Yeah it only effects followups but if you do a reactive after a non follow up it doesn't let you do the follow up since the reactive didnt generate an attack point. You should still do 3 followups in the 15 second window but it just wouldn't have the same burst as making sure you get all 3 of them in ASAP.

It'd also be cool to use it after shifting like you alluded to. BLtR->3pts->pop up shifting hit that paired strike macro then hit your normal spam macro to do all the reactives you've built up and your target should be dead.

ugh, stupid 5 min rule on edits. You'll put up SLI before BLtR of course and you'll need to hope for some weapon master procs to get that all in one SLI but if you pull it off it'd be amazing burst.

[DaseinNJ]

ugh, stupid 5 min rule on edits. You'll put up SLI before BLtR of course and you'll need to hope for some weapon master procs to get that all in one SLI but if you pull it off it'd be amazing burst.

Missed the 5 min window again.

The safest way to do the huge burst in 44pt would be:

SLI -> 3AP with off gcds-> Shifting -> paired strike -> hurricane -> DS -> SLI -> DS -> Raptor -> DS -> BLtR -> DS -> hurricane ->back to the spam macro

Or you could just put all the off GCDs on another macro to spam after every followup.

[Kutsuu Isback]

The biggest burst you can do with this spec in the shortest timeframe is this:

Setup time: SLI > 3APs > SB

Burst: Paired > Raptor(or hurricane) > Offgcdspam+reaping harvest.

What you end up with is a 3 second time between the paired and the reaping hitting, and upwards of 11k damage in that time frame. The only time I have ever failed to kill a rank 6 cleric with this so far has been when they had healer's covenant, detaunt, or I was CC'd during that 3 second period.

My main macros with this spec look like this:

#show path of the hurricane
cast path of the hurricane
cast path of the raptor
cast paired strike
cast dual strike
cast path of the wind

#show strike like iron
cast strike like iron
cast reaping harvest
cast path of the tempest
cast frenzied strike
cast turn the blade
cast inescapable fury
cast bloodthirst

I don't use the finisher macro just to hit finishers, sometimes I will spam it between GCDs when I want the burst dmg from off GCD attacks.

You can use BLTR for the burst instead of SB if SB isn't up.


Also, if paired was already used, just dual strike > followup > offgcd+RH will still kill most players outright.

[Morfang]

Sorry to be an idiot,

But im looking for a build abit better than the 44 Paragon / 22 Champ build. After something that is either 2hander or, preferably, sword and board (although a link to 1 of each would be great) which is ~ok~ to flag carry in and also decent for 1v1 and dishing out a little damage. In rank 2 gear, but am rank 3.

I understand to get high damage you have to sacrifice survivability and vica verse but which is the best balanced, effective spec as I dont often get in premades!

[DaseinNJ]

Sorry to be an idiot,

But im looking for a build abit better than the 44 Paragon / 22 Champ build. After something that is either 2hander or, preferably, sword and board (although a link to 1 of each would be great) which is ~ok~ to flag carry in and also decent for 1v1 and dishing out a little damage. In rank 2 gear, but am rank 3.

I understand to get high damage you have to sacrifice survivability and vica verse but which is the best balanced, effective spec as I dont often get in premades!

The most important thing for flag running is 24 point paragon for the extra long fleet of foot and BLtR. You should also have enough pally to get the full heal, paladin's devotion, and shield charge.

So that's this offensively or this defensively.

[Shinigam1]

Wow, I just got pwned in a random 1v1 while running my 44/22/0. A well geared, 51 riftblade/15 paragon (he had AotR and turn the blade, so I assume) just killed me in less than 10 seconds. My path of the wind got dodged and parried, the only 2 times I managed to try to attack back.

If anyone wants a combat log I'll take screenies

[DaseinNJ]

Wow, I just got pwned in a random 1v1 while running my 44/22/0. A well geared, 51 riftblade/15 paragon (he had AotR and turn the blade, so I assume) just killed me in less than 10 seconds. My path of the wind got dodged and parried, the only 2 times I managed to try to attack back.

If anyone wants a combat log I'll take screenies

I believe it. 44/22/0 is pretty harsh in 1v1s especially if you aren't in R6 gear. That's why I use the S/B pally/champ/vk spec in world pvp and only swap to my 38/26/2 if I'm against a healer/mage dps or trying to get burst kills against a defiant raid.

[Shinigam1]

I think I played poorly on top of his outgearing me though. I shouldn't have stayed at range against a riftblade/paragon with my build. It happened fast though with him getting the jump. I thought to CC a little too late too, too confused about my attacks failing.

[DaseinNJ]

The most important thing for flag running is 24 point paragon for the extra long fleet of foot and BLtR. You should also have enough pally to get the full heal, paladin's devotion, and shield charge.

So that's this offensively or this defensively.

The 24 Para / 21 Champ / 21 Pally might be a fun all purpose S/B build for low ranks who want to flag run but I've never tested it.

[Kutsuu Isback]

Wow, I just got pwned in a random 1v1 while running my 44/22/0. A well geared, 51 riftblade/15 paragon (he had AotR and turn the blade, so I assume) just killed me in less than 10 seconds. My path of the wind got dodged and parried, the only 2 times I managed to try to attack back.

If anyone wants a combat log I'll take screenies

51RB is a much more defensive and effective 1v1 build than the 44/22. 44/22 shouldn't be mistaken for a 1v1 build, it's a pure support-assisted burst DPS build.

[Morfang]

Thanks for the replies.

So what would people suggest the most effective Solo pvp build is atm then? As I find myself stranded quite often in World PvP and in Warfronts if people arent working together!