Quick update on DPS Warriors for 1.3

[Kruunch]

too bad it never was entry lvl dps soul. bm/champ has always done more dps at all gear lvls including green weapons. keep in mind the weapon strikes are based off weapon dmg and everything is "supposed" to be waste off of attack power... it's a horribly broken soul that has currently 0 use in this game.

All it needs is AP scaling or allow Two Handed Specialization / Teaching of the Five Rings to effect its attacks.

[Steejee]

Some of us have been DPS warriors since launch and can step over our bar of expectation without raising our feet. It takes more than lip-service to restore faith.

Lip-service and Faith? Nothing has changed on live. They put some notes out on PTS on Friday, people complained that they were off and a dev posted the intent was to keep DPS builds roughly in line with their current state, just with more options and that they were looking into it. Today (first day after the weekend) they acknowledge things aren't proper on PTS and will be tweaking it. All of this in the span of 2 work days, and all on PTS, which exists for this very reason. Trion is acting exactly as they should in this instance.

[Balzakk]

The whiners are so pathetic.

"Oh it took you 4 days to notice you ****ed over DPS warriors!"

It's called the weekend.

[furo]

Maybe now the dps fanbois can calm down. I've never seen so much pi$$ing and moaning and ragequitting.

[Haasome]

I appreciate Trion actually listening to the playerbase when they make a mistake, but if warrior dps declines at all I feel it will be the wrong move by the devs...

warriors have such a limited role that to not excel with it is a serious problem.

[Makexevil]

Hey guys,

Got some good news on the DPS warrior front. Atrius and Sweet, went over the feedback and numbers people were getting on PTS and it's pretty obvious we're not quite where we need to be, so you should be seeing further improvements come on line this week.

Ultimately we want warrior DPS to stay similiar to what it is on live today, but open up the number of soul combinations you can use to get there.

Once again thanks for all the feedback, one of us will be swinging by later this week with further change details as soon as we have them locked down.

Thanks!
-Gersh

THANK YOU
This is exactly what I've been telling everyone, but very few wanted to listen and instead wanted to flame me. I stand proven on the belief that you guys wanted to open warriors up to more broader choices for raiding. To all you who doubted Trion or what I've said, you all can do wallow in the corner for all you've achieved is looking like an *****hat.

[jaym7018]

I probably shouldnt say this being im a warrior but now im a liitle bit scared they will overcompensate the loss of SLI. First try they severely gimp us only seems trion logic would indicate that we will go into 1.3 overpowered.

[iEchoic]

Can we ensure that numbers aren't based around being ultra uber-geared on PTS? If we standardize the numbers around that, on live, they're going to be much lower.

[CaptFailure]

While it's cute the devs are attempting to listen to Warrior concerns it's still too late. This blatent disregard for our concerns for two patches and the slow response on the third has doomed this class and caused the cancelation of many accounts. At this point Trion should just give up.

Also: Fiery Burst. Broken in one hotfix, "fixed" in the next, fix didn't work and was ignored until the next major patch. Totally unacceptable.

[Skel]

I don't mean to be rude but it takes you 4 days to realize that removing 48% of a warriors DPS puts them beneath where they need to be?

Whatever. At this rate, I guess we should be happy it didn't take 4 weeks... like the Fiery Burst bug.

Who cares if it took them 4 months if it isnt live yet. You are unaffected and yet you still complain. Amazing

[Slipperypescado]

Hey guys,

Ultimately we want warrior DPS to stay similar to what it is on live today, but open up the number of soul combinations you can use to get there.

Thanks!
-Gersh

Similar dps with the added Valor ? Or Similar DPS in its current form . reducing by the added Valor? What about interrupts? With Healing being increased what are warriors given to counter?

[Anavar]

What I ask is that you keep your word.

Give us TRUE diversification of VIABLE TOP Capability in DPS.

ELIMINATE OUR NEED FOR BM. I HATE THAT ****ING PET. HATE HATE HATE HATE THAT ****ING PET.

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Do I parse at the top or near the top of our DPS charts on raids? Yes...yes I do......but I've put in over 90 hours of fine tuning, macro testing, gearing up and tweaking my character to do so. It has come with much blood, sweat and tears.

And then I have to dance in and out of AE's, I take tons of dmg. My pet bugs out, dies, gotta resummon, and I need separate macros just to keep that dumbass cat alive.

We have the most challenging gameplay in order to be good and we are the most gear dependant.

Not ALL warriors top the DPS charts. Just the good ones.

Which is how it should be.

Deca

[Nevron]

Lip-service and Faith? Nothing has changed on live. They put some notes out on PTS on Friday, people complained that they were off and a dev posted the intent was to keep DPS builds roughly in line with their current state, just with more options and that they were looking into it. Today (first day after the weekend) they acknowledge things aren't proper on PTS and will be tweaking it. All of this in the span of 2 work days, and all on PTS, which exists for this very reason. Trion is acting exactly as they should in this instance.

Sorry, but I'm someone that's been consistently burned by their PvP changes. If PvP isn't your thing, then you're probably unaware of the full scope of failure that they've put forth in that aspect of the game. So it's with the bitterness derived from their approach to PvP and changes made that I make my replies.

And no, nothing has changed on live, but look at what they've already done with the live version of the game, and then couple that with their proposed changes and direction. When it comes down to it, the changes that they have proposed are a strong indication that this team has absolutely no idea what it's doing. So just because these changes haven't made their way to live yet is no excuse to not be alarmed as to what's in store and what we should expect.

[Magnos]

Hey guys,

Got some good news on the DPS warrior front. Atrius and Sweet, went over the feedback and numbers people were getting on PTS and it's pretty obvious we're not quite where we need to be, so you should be seeing further improvements come on line this week.

Ultimately we want warrior DPS to stay similiar to what it is on live today, but open up the number of soul combinations you can use to get there.

Once again thanks for all the feedback, one of us will be swinging by later this week with further change details as soon as we have them locked down.

Thanks!
-Gersh

Please Please PLEASE do not just increase DPS and consider the class fixed. I'm speaking in regards to Champion specifically. You may give us damage that looks good on paper when we go 30+ into champion, but everything 31+ In champion lacks any sort of utility or survivability, those of us who have to spec heavily into it to do good burst will be without escape skills, extra health, defensive cooldowns or anything else that keeps us alive in PvP.

On top of taking away ranged attacks from 2H users (please dont say we can use riftblade, RB blows for two hand dps in pvp) by making Path of the Wind dual wield only, we'll only be able to move slowly, charge occasionally and bleed to death. If someone stands there and lets us hit them we'll be able to kill them, but since we wear out our root/snare DR extremely fast with bullrushes ******ed functionality, they aren't likely to stay in melee range long.

[Vayra]

So warriors get nerfed and devs are all posting and trying to calm the warriors, mages get nerfs and class-destroying changes and not a single word from the devs? Wonderful.

I would love to see some of the mage love that all the other callings have been accusing Gersh of since beta.