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    Quote Originally Posted by jaym7018 View Post
    lol you dont do 2k in 1 hit vs R6s in you garbage RB/pal/VK spec. Discharge+burst ability+rift surge tic is the most burst your garbage spec will do and that wont hit for 2 k combined against a rank 6. A bard could out heal your damage.
    This.

    You're not blowing up R6 for anything decent in a spec that doesn't scale at all.

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    2k in one hit vs r6 isn't burst? M'kay

    I have champ/vk/para spec as well. What rb spec do you use ? Mb your spec sucks

    SOOoooooo , which pvp rank is your pyro errr. Warrior I ment.

    NO seriously, if you actually play a warrior then you just lost all credibility.


    Yes 2 hand RB with SLI some VK etc can do ok but scales so poorly and misses some precious off GCD burst abilities.

    More comedy plox.

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    Bursts don't actually scale AS bad as people think. You don't use a gcd with it thus you can do another point builder, so you only lose 40% weapon damage (thats quite a lot though) , and get twice the ap scaling (which is meaningless right now, but if they fix it it might just make up for the difference).

    Rb/para/vk is just weak for burst. It CAN ocassionally hit for 2k in a gcd (if everything crits), but that's simply not enough. But hey,when all the stars align (crits, wm proc, no absorbs on target etc) dw warriors can burst glass cannon build r6 people harder than that at range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreadcall View Post
    Rb/para/vk is just weak for burst. It CAN ocassionally hit for 2k in a gcd (if everything crits), but that's simply not enough. But hey,when all the stars align (crits, wm proc, no absorbs on target etc) dw warriors can burst glass cannon build r6 people harder than that at range.
    meant rb/paladin/vk there....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PPMyDoDeeSock View Post
    any warrior that can't beat a pyro 1on1 needs to go re-roll...and warrior that can't beat a cleric 1on1...needs to go re-roll
    actually, if there's no cleric capable of beating you 1v1 they need to go reroll, there's specs that do similar damage with more staying power, so if you don't get lucky and burst through it with crits you're boned

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    Ill post 800 rs 1200 burst ss on a rank 6, one swing, l2spec

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rottweiler-STi View Post
    Ill post 800 rs 1200 burst ss on a rank 6, one swing, l2spec
    im sure you wont. A 1200 burst ability is impossible unless you attack a flag carrier in whitefall with the damage taken debuff. Even with SLI you cant get a burst ability to hit for 1200.

    RB/champ/para your bursts will hit a max of 1100

    in a 51 RB build your bursts hit for over 1200

    A 1200 earth or storm burst ability is impossible. especially in your garbage spec.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaym7018 View Post
    im sure you wont. A 1200 burst ability is impossible unless you attack a flag carrier in whitefall with the damage taken debuff. Even with SLI you cant get a burst ability to hit for 1200.

    RB/champ/para your bursts will hit a max of 1100

    in a 51 RB build your bursts hit for over 1200

    A 1200 earth or storm burst ability is impossible. especially in your garbage spec.
    when are you gonna post a YT vid owning it up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rottweiler-STi View Post
    when are you gonna post a YT vid owning it up?
    ive never made a vid or taken a screenshot inmy MMO life, whats the point ? Should i take a SS of my next 900k damage 65 KB port scion even though when i do that its cause i have over 100k healing taken against bad players. Ive had plenty of 20-30-40-50-even 60 KB warfronts and if i didnt quintuple the next guys healing taken i would have ben useless. Meawhile i can go 27-2 as a marksman in a codex while taking less then 20k damage and recieving less than 20k healing.
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    I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the un-****ing of our offensive souls.
    Both patches thus far have been a severe *****-slap to warriors and melee in general.

    Odds are they'll simply change the tool-tip on the souls to better describe the use of said soul.

    instead of riftblade - offensive soul it should read:

    Riftblade-lolz scaling is for nubs

    Beastmaster - lol pokemon4life

    Paragon - lol just lol

    Champion - respawn timers are great for flash-games

    and vindicator -- wtf 5 points in a tier 2 skill to give me 25% chance to see the word immune pop up over an opponents head...but only if I am behind them.

    Basically, let newbie warriors know what they are getting into.

    Or Christ, just cut to the chase and change the name of the calling to "everyones *****" and then you'll be spot-on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rottweiler-STi View Post
    when are you gonna post a YT vid owning it up?
    Nice evasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mocotriste View Post
    God wish I'd known this 19 levels ago...thot I'd make a warr "for fun" to smash ppl in pvp with via melee...even at WF cap of lvl 19 i come in almost last dmg, most deaths, most dmg taken, and worst of all, least valor...

    I'm absolutely demoralized about the warr...it's even stacked nicely with mostly blues from dungeons, pvp and rift gear...So sad

    People suggest setting up a ranged spec, but why when I already have a necro (who pwns btw)...

    I have no idea how to fix this other than to boost warrior mitigation way up since to be effective you've got to draw lots of attention...and if ur not, wats the point?

    Tried para/rift/champ for the cool looks of dual wield...wat a joke, I spend the match in ghost form, literally...Oh, and I opted out of going into a WF at 19 because I got 2-3 new skills, and at 19 I have almost 3 complete bars full of buttons...um wtf I'm not a @#$$ octopus fingered freak?!?

    Pala/void/reav tank spec I last longer, but still, I'm at the bottom 1/5 of the chart in all columns, at lvl 19 in the 10-20 bracket...

    Even still, I'm trying to think how I could make it work...depressing though to think I have to try EVEN HARDER to play a gdam toon just to squeak out semi-respectable performace when decked out in optimal gear vs lvl.../sigh

    Hmm weird. I have the opposite experience. At leve 15 in warfronts I came out with most killing blows, most damage, and least deaths.

    Weird how that works...

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    Had lvl 50 Cleric Caster/Healer/Tank, at that time Warrior was OP in the BGs, I spent a ton of time in the droop position looking down and/or way back with all shields up healing others. I got tired of Guardian and went Defiant to see the areas of the map and quests that I had been missing, which meant I got into the PvP side just in time to be steamrolled by the nerf. Prior to the patch, I was a force in a BG and could keep someone occupied, specialized in pounding healers to keep them healing themselves versus healing the Fang carrier in Black Garden.

    Suddenly, I can't get through the healer shields and they can outheal my damage, I have now gone through four spec changes and nothing is curing the issue. Without a reliable snare of some sort the new kite is death on warriors, I mean now ranged mages and rogues who are two levels lower than me will hunt me down "why because now I am dead meat" with only one or two ways to keep them close and they have just as many to get away meanwhile they never stop doing damage to me.

    Right now I am running Champion, Beast, and Paragon, I can destroy and stay alive doing rifts all by myself, but I get destroyed while in BGs now. My tank spec is not as good as my Clerics spec was and that is really sad. Oh before someone starts in I was MT for end game guilds in WoW, I have seen the Litch King at my feet as well as having earned decent PvP gear. The issue seems to be not with how fast you earn favor but how fast you get rep to allow you to buy anything a chicken or egg/Catch 22 for those who didnt start out doing a 48 hr sprint when the game came out. However with a lvl 34 warrior being in a BG is just ugly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawki View Post
    I chose warrior because I don't want to be ranged. I want to be able to have a fighting chance of getting close to my target and staying on them and doing big bursts of melee damage. At this point I am getting killed before I am able to get More than three hits on a target unless I have a pocket healer.

    I just suggest they make it harder to kite warriors. Give us a chance to do something without requiring a pocket healer.
    Dude, this is everyone in game. Without healing, and being focus by multiple people, you are going to die. Casters face it when the battletide rolls over them, melee besides warriors face it all the time. It is the nature of the game. You can help yourself by resisting the urge to pile head long into the team as soon as they are in range, giving your healers no warning, and less reaction time. Play smarter. If you know that you are going to kill someone if they dont kite you (which you will) wait until they are doing something they feel is more important than kiting you, and viola, you are getting uptime, and if they Do decide to kite you, well you have successfully peeled someone, congratulations you are playing smart pvp. If you charge in when everyone is still deciding what they are going to do, and force yourself upon them, You are going to become their target, hopefully you are ready for that, and so is your team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizaz View Post
    FYI Riftstalker running isn't even pve. .... You might as well call riftstalker running PVE.

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    You fail to acknowledge that as a melee class, you have to be in the thick of it. That's why we need pocket healers more. That's why our survivability is way lower than it should be. We don't have a pyromancer, inquisitor or marksman spec.

    Yeah, anyone getting FF'd will die without healing, but warrior is the only calling that can't heal and does not have a real range spec. Open your eyes dude.

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