Ranger vs Bloodstalker

[Syphon99]

So i just recently switched back to my rogue after some time spent on my fail cleric dps. My question is, does the 51 Ranger still out dps the bloodstalker (any variation of it)? I love playing melee, imo its more challenging and i like seeing a knife go into my enemies' eye socket. But i do like to dps the best i can, and i know the fight could call for certain specs to be more viable.

And i have checked different posts about BiS dagger for melee rogue, and contrary to game chat, the RoS Alsbeth dagger is not BiS? Trying to gear myself the best i can, got a lot of catching up to do. Thanks in advance

[Zyzyx]

It really depends on the fight.

If you can stay on the boss bloodstalker will be more dps.

Bloodstalker takes some learning and practice and ranger is just 2 buttons so better off using that most of the time.

[BrownsMageNerfDelivery]

My experience has always been that sin/RS (Bloodstalker) is more entertaining to play, but I have to deal with the hassles of melee. Not a huge deal before ID (melee is a royal pain in ID).

[Muspel]

ranger is just 2 buttons

Ranger is six buttons if you do it right.

[Syphon99]

Ok so BS is actually more dps, but is harder and can be more difficuly with mechanics? Sounds good to me! I always like a challenge. Have yet to try either cause i want my HK 4 piece before i do so just rocking the 51mm at the moment.

What about the ros dagger? Cause if its that good for melee rogue, ill go gdkp that sucker and buy it. Im all about being uber :-) my guild just moved into ID so no drops from there is possible. Especially not for me. I must have my 4 piece otherwise i feel useless. Not gonna gimp a raid for my attendance....

[Ymirson]

RotP dagger is BiS before ID, easily attainable and doesn't rely on a proc to be good.

[Muspel]

Ok so BS is actually more dps, but is harder and can be more difficuly with mechanics? Sounds good to me! I always like a challenge. Have yet to try either cause i want my HK 4 piece before i do so just rocking the 51mm at the moment.

It's not just that it's a challenge, it's that some mechanics make it deal less damage than Ranger. For instance, bloodstalker has no AoE, and if you have to leave melee range, your damage output drops significantly.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of fights where Bloodstalker just isn't worth using.

[MoonfireSpam]

And a handful of fights where porting to the boss is likely to get you killed.

[Syphon99]

So if youre forced to move while youre using BS is you dps gonna drop? Or will it just because you may get out of range, lag, etc etc? Sorry for newb questions. I would be testing this stuff out but im stuck at work for 24 hour duty so cant get on :-( thanks for the help and advice

[Vitto]

The more movement a fight has the more Ranger will pull closer to Bloodstalker

[BrownsMageNerfDelivery]

So if youre forced to move while youre using BS is you dps gonna drop? Or will it just because you may get out of range, lag, etc etc? Sorry for newb questions. I would be testing this stuff out but im stuck at work for 24 hour duty so cant get on :-( thanks for the help and advice

If you get disconnected, you risk losing max uptime on Stalker phase blinks trying to reconnect. Not to mention (as others have), blinks are kind of...not smart and can put you in a disadvantageous position (ports to center of the boss, which can sometimes be problematic.

[Mayi]

Sin-RS is more dps for sure, problem is there are lots of limitations to the spec. The only fight you can use it on is Ituziel where it's more dps then ranger. Other then that every fight is either melee unfriendly, you can't be behind the boss or the ports will get you killed. The problem isn't the spec, it's ID.

[Gery]

38 sin is quite fun on Laethys and it's basically a modified bloodstalker. It's going to lose to ranger in dps in phase 2 because you can't be behind the boss but I think the added draining from debilitating poison makes up for it. Alltha in Primeval Feast is also a nice fight for bloodstalker.

Overall ranger is just strong at the moment unless the pet bugs or gets killed by mechanics. It's the easy mode for dps which is sad since I enjoy playing all the other builds much more than ranger.

[Syphon99]

Ya i hear that. I love playing the challenging specs. Makes you a better player and you get so much more satisfaction out of it. But like everyone is saying, sometimes you gotta go for the 2 button ranger masher just for the situation.

That being said, i have been reading the 34 BS is actually slightly better then the 32? Sorry cant link posts and threads im newbtastic on my pos smart phone with all that stuff. And also, since p50 released, ranger gets equal and even slighty more dps out of the p50 bow vs aky relic? Or is it the gun? Make no difference? And how does that work for BS? BS runs on stat stacking and not ranged weapon dps correct?

[Ymirson]

Ranged Weapon DPS does nothing for melee builds, but the stats do, indeed.