Thread: Saboteur changes for 1.8 
The idea someone mentioned of charges being built on yourself would fix that issue. You still need combo points, but setup for fights would be better and we wouldnt be wasting charges.
I have tons of ideas, but at this point, I feel I'll just be wasting brain cells.
Shortround the Vanquisher: member of Havoc on Keenblade
Malar the Retired!!
So what's the latest news on fail Sab?
http://static.rifthead.com/rifthead/...s/3-Gunzip.png- Competitive PvP DPS. You should fear seeing a Rogue the same way you see a Warrior. Of equal Prestige Rank, the two should be capable of providing a similar amount of PvP threat.
TRION is doing the same BS they have done for a year now.
From the start of the game Rogues have been low end dps at lvl 50. Whenever Trion did a patch that gave them any real damage, they nerfed it very quick.
Right now this Sab garbage will amount to nothing. Ive tested it and theres much better aoe dps from Ranger MM specs and better single target dps.
As it stands Clerics are pulling the highest aoe dps PERIOD. We have one reaching 17,000 DPS, THATS RIGHT 17k of course he dies pretty fast from agro but he still ends up as top dps when fight is over, on Trash in HK. Warriors, Mages and Clerics are topping the single target dps, ROGUES your DEAD LAST by about 400 to 700 dps and youll stay there. But hey you can hide
or run!!!!
I play my Cleric and do much more dps in PvP and PvE vs my Rogue. WORTHLESS 3.2k ROGUE
Bloodstalker is top dawg ST DPS if I'm not mistaken.Originally Posted by Bogus
As it stands Clerics are pulling the highest aoe dps PERIOD. We have one reaching 17,000 DPS, THATS RIGHT 17k of course he dies pretty fast from agro but he still ends up as top dps when fight is over, on Trash in HK. Warriors, Mages and Clerics are topping the single target dps, ROGUES your DEAD LAST by about 400 to 700 dps and youll stay there. But hey you can hide
Let's keep this thread about Sab please. In terms of AE DPS, my mage does pretty well and depending on the # of mobs and positioning, on any given pull a mage, cleric, or warrior can end up pulling the top DPS. I want to see rogues have a chance as well.
Oif - Mage | Bagel - Rogue | Duirin - Cleric
<Vendetta> @ Faeblight - Officer Emeritus
On 2 of 11 fights in HK. Everything else is.....
Some of us run it on up to 8 fights. Could do 10 if you wanted but grug is annoying to stay "behind" him so just run NB.
Original quote was top dawg. Response was on 2 of 11 fights.
Are you claiming it's top dawg on 8 out of 11 or even 10?
If you're using it on that many fights, you're not using the top dps spec on those fights.
Also, if you believe it's top dog on 8 out of 11, show some parses.
2 out of 11 best. That's it.
The first issue I would like feedback on is the Power Regeneration. I have tweaked it to a point but I need feedback on it from actual players (You guys) in a real world environment to fine tune it. The value is not final and will likely need to be changed. The goal is to minimize the use and need for Tablets and make players who do not use them more viable without completely removing the use of the Tablets in game
It depends on how your guild does the fights. At a certain dps number fights like zilas and estrode become trivialized and it becomes ok to use assasin/rs and other specs on those fights.
Warriors currently have a 114 page thread ongoing to this update with their dev posting at midnight. We have 30 pages and
Last edited by Petgroup; 03-02-2012 at 01:17 AM.
What are you talking about? When he found out we were parsing half other classes he asked what their PAs were set at. That's enough to reassure me he's competent and has a firm grasp on not just rogues, but the game as a whole.Warriors currently have a 114 page thread ongoing to this update with their dev posting at midnight. We have 30 pages and
Patch 1.8 should be interesting, I'm curious how Sabotouer will be shipped.
http://static.rifthead.com/rifthead/...s/3-Gunzip.png- Competitive PvP DPS. You should fear seeing a Rogue the same way you see a Warrior. Of equal Prestige Rank, the two should be capable of providing a similar amount of PvP threat.
Zilas has adds and possible disconnect. Not sure sin/RS would be top dog.
Estrode has certain specs that aren't the best to use. Also, mind control could throw off dps quite large for Sin/RS due to disconnect. Is it still top??
Can it be used? Sure. Ideal? Not so much.
The first issue I would like feedback on is the Power Regeneration. I have tweaked it to a point but I need feedback on it from actual players (You guys) in a real world environment to fine tune it. The value is not final and will likely need to be changed. The goal is to minimize the use and need for Tablets and make players who do not use them more viable without completely removing the use of the Tablets in game
Let's refocus this on Sab. I apologize for bringing up dogs at all.
Oif - Mage | Bagel - Rogue | Duirin - Cleric
<Vendetta> @ Faeblight - Officer Emeritus
Oif - Mage | Bagel - Rogue | Duirin - Cleric
<Vendetta> @ Faeblight - Officer Emeritus
We are the worst aoe class, no point in doing 1200 dps to the boss and each add when you could be doing 3500+ on the boss and letting warriors take care of the aoe. We set up for fast kills though, I still beat MMs on zilas and matron when 50% of their total dps is fan out.
Back to sabo! Buff the crystal to ALL aoe abilities 30% like warriors so we can just use it with BD or NB on aoe fights
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