Please Buff Sabs

[Petgroup]

The playstayle that Sab has is broken. It is bad on low health targets and targets that die before 12 seconds.

Just because mobs die before I get 5 charges doesn't mean SAB doesn't need an overhaul. Actually, it does......

Here's to having our AOE still laughable till June! Job well done.

There have been bigger issues that needed looking at.

Rogue single target 5-10% buff in pve.
Rogue AOE 5000% buff in pve.
Rogue PA's.

What other issues are you babbling about.............

Fix those 3 and negative posts stop. It's that simple. None of those 3 are fixed in 1.7. It's all a joke.

[Zyzyx]

You love the fact that he's looking into our AoE dps in 1.8........

That's like 3+ months away all the while we get demolished in AoE. Which will now be for a total of the last 6 months.......

Once again, I'd rather have him never post at all. I'll put off paying my subscription for the next few months, I can do that right? Such procrastination.

ya but we'll be 2nd in single target deeps till then :ssh:

[Beckmann]

This makes no sense.

Don't feed the troll, Seebs.

[Vindicit]

Issue #2: Lack of self-healing. For the other rogue builds, I can just dual-spec to sin, 14 points, leeching poison go! But sab doesn't get weapon enchants on charges. Now, I think that may be necessary; having five weapon enchants proc at once would be sort of bad. But SOME way to get leeching poison in there might be really useful. Alternatively, Healing Bombs. :P

Proposed solution to the healing/enchant synergy issue: Similar to Planar Reversal, have a toggle, available sometime above 20 points, called Coated Charges or something similar. When it's on, charges proc weapon enchants as placed, and always generate threat even if you have silent setup.

We dont need to screw Sab even more by putting in worthless stuff like healing. We just want it to be a pure DPS soul.

[Petgroup]

ya but we'll be 2nd in single target deeps till then :ssh:

When you say second, do you mean 8th if there's 7 Warriors in the raid?

[Beckmann]

Edit: Nvm, was a bad idea. Better to just shorten Sab's overall rotation instead of messing too much with Rapid Setup. All of this has been discussed in the other thread about fixing Sab.

[Zyzyx]

When you say second, do you mean 8th if there's 7 Warriors in the raid?

nah we will be ahead of warriors by a bit and behind mages by a bit according to voodoo

EDIT: aoe wise fan out needs to give cps - crossfire new aoe finsher - cd on concussive blast removed - new aoe finisher in nb - sab fixed

[Petgroup]

EDIT: aoe wise fan out needs to give cps - crossfire new aoe finsher - cd on concussive blast removed - new aoe finisher in nb - sab fixed

Brilliant, you're hired. So simple yet so far, if that, away.

[DTM300]

The playstayle that Sab has is broken. It is bad on low health targets and targets that die before 12 seconds.

Have all charges auto-det when target with charges dies, effecting the nearest target. Or at least transfer.

[Percy44]

I would like to see the sabs abilities proc weapon enhancments

[Zyzyx]

Have all charges auto-det when target with charges dies, effecting the nearest target. Or at least transfer.

trash mobs that all die in less than 12 seconds what then!?

[Vindicit]

I would like to see the sabs abilities proc weapon enhancments

Wont work well with silent setup.

[Adnoz]

Overhauling the entire Sab soul is not an option. General playstyle of the Sab stays the same. Promoting synergy between the Sab and other souls is definitely something to look at. It should be the strongest AOE DPS soul among the Rogues and competitive with other AOE specialist in other callings.

AOE specialists such as single target warriors?
This is a joke.

[Petgroup]

AOE specialists such as single target warriors?
This is a joke.

Stop sounding like me!!!!!

[Beckmann]

AOE specialists such as single target warriors?
This is a joke.

To be fair, SC isn't any good at ST nor is Cab, and Atrius posted about nerfing Champ crystal in 1.8. So maybe everything will make sense by then.

Just remember, this game is a moving target.