Upcoming Rogue changes for 1.7

[Durango]

4.)Change 4piece HK bonus to a similar effect like the champion crystal by upping all (melee?) AoE-Attacks by 20-35%.

WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT DPS LOSS! Come one people, think! The BD 4 piece bonus is decent. Only change required is to make it affect all/a majority of the rhythmic abilities. All these other hairbrained ideas are DPS reductions over the already existing BD 4 piece bonus.

[Atheres]

Can you give me a solid fact ?
Like some maths or others thing ?

Because after some parse , as i say earlier , the difference between a BS spec and a BD based one (test a lot of variant , with MM/RS , Sin/MM , Sin/Rs) is from 20% to 30% depending on the subspec , not 10% as you say.


If you need some screen , i post this later this evenning after my work.

[Atheres]

Btw , test done with almost BIS stuff , just miss the soliton blade and relic legs. Heavy AP centered (in BS something like 1850 full raid buff).

And no BD don't scale better with ap than BS. Thanks to expose weakness and the hk crystal.

[Koe]

Dancing steel will remain useless with a 0s CD. DS needs a larger AP contribution and needs to grant combo points.

Dancing Steel is one of the strongest AoE attacks in the game, if not the strongest.


I would love a 0s CD for trash.

[Koe]

Only change required is to make it affect all/a majority of the rhythmic abilities.

Nah, you have 100% CD uptime, with the 2 best ones having the most uptime.


Edit: Unless you mean giving Dualism and/or BaSP more time.

[Durango]

Btw , test done with almost BIS stuff , just miss the soliton blade and relic legs. Heavy AP centered (in BS something like 1850 full raid buff).

And no BD don't scale better with ap than BS. Thanks to expose weakness and the hk crystal.

It scales better than BS with 4 piece HK sin crystal. You likely are using an incorrect rotation/macros which you cannot use and get good DPS in BD spec. You must maintain 2 QS/PS per DD buff at all times as your highest priority. with 4 piece HK crystal, BaSP and DC have AP scaling on the order of 2-3x BS. The other two are on the order of 1.5x BS.

[Durango]

Nah, you have 100% CD uptime, with the 2 best ones having the most uptime.


Edit: Unless you mean giving Dualism and/or BaSP more time.

nah, allows you to take BT out of the rotation boosting DPS and simplifying the CD rotation. It also opens up <51 pt builds.

[Durango]

Dancing Steel is one of the strongest AoE attacks in the game, if not the strongest.


I would love a 0s CD for trash.

it is pretty meh. Really doesn't do much damage in reality.

[Zyzyx]

blade dancer and saboteur synergy crystals definately need to be changed

[Enaki]

blade dancer and saboteur synergy crystals definately need to be changed

I would hate to just see the Sab crystal changed. Granted every little bit helps, but the soul needs a lot of issues addressed, not just the crystal.

[Koe]

nah, allows you to take BT out of the rotation boosting DPS and simplifying the CD rotation. It also opens up <51 pt builds.

I see where you're going.

[Koe]

it is pretty meh. Really doesn't do much damage in reality.

You always combine it with BaSP. Always.


It is literally one of the highest AoE DPS abilities out there, at leeast for trash(RoA lol on MAtron).

2x 1.2-1.5k a sec + 2x Serrated Blades on every target every sec + poison procs.

[Empyron]

No bard changes... hmph. The assassin poison change is nice. Someone said those that spec into BD only use Deadly Strike anyways. My assassin/dancer (assdancer) does only use Deadly Strike as a finisher so I think that's true, but this might help that anyways.

Still, no hope for the bard on the horizon makes me sad.

[Petgroup]

Still, no hope for the bard on the horizon makes me sad.

You mean Rogues in general. Wait till this update hits test and this forum is flooded with F bombs.

There will be many locked threads. Just like many whelps and more dots.

[Zyzyx]

You mean Rogues in general. Wait till this update hits test and this forum is flooded with F bombs.

There will be many locked threads. Just like many whelps and more dots.

I think there is hope. The EW bug fix combined with the promised increased damage from weapon enchants might put us up with warriors for single target.

Will need to test to be sure then look at several changes for aoe damage increases.