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    btw hoko, blade tempo macroed? realy? *giggles*
    u dont use poison malice?
    Last edited by Yoma; 06-16-2011 at 02:39 AM.

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    Only 3 skills before your Keen Strike and you don't macro Quick Strike? Quick hits like 150% of Keen. Care to explain? (Getting the 2CPs out of Precision immediatly doesn't count, because you are using Keen 3-5 times within the Cooldown of Precision)

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    I wonder how it even works on other fights. You claim solid dps, yet with no pet aoe redux and no instant summon, seems like it could lose 176 dps pretty quickly on many fights. How do you either make up for it or avoid it dying all together?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SrFamine View Post
    I wonder how it even works on other fights. You claim solid dps, yet with no pet aoe redux and no instant summon, seems like it could lose 176 dps pretty quickly on many fights. How do you either make up for it or avoid it dying all together?
    It would be more then that... but essentially the pet is a vessel to get prey on the weak and a ~200 dot.

    You have 4 specs, I don't think the OP is suggesting this is a build to use on every encounter. He's saying on plutonus and in encounters where there's no risk of a pet dying it has really high dps potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SrFamine View Post
    I wonder how it even works on other fights. You claim solid dps, yet with no pet aoe redux and no instant summon, seems like it could lose 176 dps pretty quickly on many fights. How do you either make up for it or avoid it dying all together?
    Did just notice the damage redux. so a small bit, but still no instant.


    imo having a spec for each encounter is kind of stupid. sure its cool to put numbers like this away, but its not relevant anywhere else (in many cases). Fights like sabo parse nearly as high if not higher for equally geared rogues and dont require strange gimmicks.

    that being said, its def a cool ****ing idea for a build, especially one that doesnt use flame spike because in all honesty, it doesnt scale that well. I wish I could try to dps, but alas, crystal duty =(

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    Quote Originally Posted by SrFamine View Post
    Did just notice the damage redux. so a small bit, but still no instant.


    imo having a spec for each encounter is kind of stupid. sure its cool to put numbers like this away, but its not relevant anywhere else (in many cases). Fights like sabo parse nearly as high if not higher for equally geared rogues and dont require strange gimmicks.

    that being said, its def a cool ****ing idea for a build, especially one that doesnt use flame spike because in all honesty, it doesnt scale that well. I wish I could try to dps, but alas, crystal duty =(
    No sabo doesnt parse that high, Sabo/BD parses closely but melee ranger specs are usually higher in any case, simply because of the fact:

    Pet DPS + Prey on the Weak.

    Also it can be used at most fights, it only becomes annoying at fights like Hylas and maybe Duke, there isnt another fight that the pet can die instantly, so its a pretty stable spec, always depending what someone wants.

    For me the faceroll that is Sabo works because i have to talk on vent a lot and other stuff raid wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffande View Post
    Only 3 skills before your Keen Strike and you don't macro Quick Strike? Quick hits like 150% of Keen. Care to explain? (Getting the 2CPs out of Precision immediatly doesn't count, because you are using Keen 3-5 times within the Cooldown of Precision)
    quick strike just sucks, it messes up the rotation.

    puncture - bs - keen - keen
    precision - bs - keen - keen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoma View Post
    running a similar build, parsing 1700+ with no relics. but its 26 rg, no flash of steel which is better imo because it has hasten call and improved trick shot. you can use this build at every single fight whbich makes its very competitive if not the best build out there. DS -> trick shot is also a nice ae combo.

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1M...cf0ckck.Vf0N0s

    using this macros, no quick strike.

    #show backstab
    suppressmacrofailures
    petattack
    petcast maul
    petcast bite
    cast precision strike
    cast puncture
    cast backstab
    cast keen strike
    cast quick shot
    cast weapon barrage
    cast poison malice
    cast reprisal
    cast escape artist


    Trick shot

    #show trick shot
    suppressmacrofailures
    petattack
    petcast bite
    petcast maul
    cast shadow fire
    cast trick shot
    cast weapon barrage
    cast escape artist

    finisher

    #show deadly strike
    suppressmacrofailures
    petattack
    petcast maul
    petcast bite
    cast deadly strike
    cast head shot
    cast weapon barrage
    cast escape artist
    spamming your first macro until 5CP then using finisher macro. with the pet I am doing 850dps on the boss dummy.

    buffs - virulent poison, lethal poison, combat pose.

    what am I doing wrong?

    I am all top t2 gear with 2 pieces of t3 gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vallarfax View Post
    spamming your first macro until 5CP then using finisher macro. with the pet I am doing 850dps on the boss dummy.

    buffs - virulent poison, lethal poison, combat pose.

    what am I doing wrong?

    I am all top t2 gear with 2 pieces of t3 gear.
    His post is about raid DPS on plutonus with pretty much every buff/debuff available, he is wearing T3 gear and T3 weapons, not about hitting the dummy.

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    Gah! We had worked through so many specs, and had tried one that was almost exactly the same as this. Unfortunately we couldn't get it to parse as high.

    We capped it out at 1770 DPS on Plutonus iirc.

    I'll ask one of my rogues to test it tomorrow night and post back with results.

    Thanks for sharing Hoko.

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    Hoko's armor is actually pretty bad. I think he only has one glyphed piece, with a bunch of t3 jewelry, but all the armor is t2 except chest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizaz View Post
    Hoko's armor is actually pretty bad. I think he only has one glyphed piece, with a bunch of t3 jewelry, but all the armor is t2 except chest.
    Not talking about Hoko, talking about Kashimaa, and last time i saw him he has 2 x T3 daggers with pretty much rest being T3 gear also.

    Anyways doesnt really matter gear wise, only thing that matters is weapons and having a raid environment.

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    Hey Hoko!

    Why no Poison Malice in your macro?
    Is ist not worth it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by potis View Post
    Anyways doesnt really matter gear wise, only thing that matters is weapons and having a raid environment.
    this.

    but my gear is a mix of R5, T2 and T3 (chest, helm, legs) weaps are epic saga sword and the ros trash drop dagger. so could be a lot better

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    Quote Originally Posted by potis View Post
    His post is about raid DPS on plutonus with pretty much every buff/debuff available, he is wearing T3 gear and T3 weapons, not about hitting the dummy.
    i parse 1070-1100 with the petbuild at the dummy (dexselfbuff + 2 x whets)
    thats pretty much the same amount i get with the 26 (well most of you use 27) bd build.
    just a feeling but it seems that the petbuild scales a bit better in raid enviroment than the petless bd build.

    edit: if i remeber right i parsed around 950 without whets, if that helps you.
    850 should be fine with only t2 weapons. maybe run more parses at the dummy. theres always room to tune the dps with a litle practice.
    Last edited by Yoma; 06-16-2011 at 05:36 AM.

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