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    Default My HOPE

    I hope it's a Magical Mitigation type soul that syns well with Stormcaller/Warlock

    Air/Death type soul that takes damage and redirects it to mobs/mana while buffing the DPS of your attacks. Sort of a force multiplier that will let players play something in good conscience besides a Pyro variant. because really fireball spam is getting a bit old..

    Air Death combo would also allow it to sin well with Dom and Necro.. and really if done right tie in the rest of the Mage souls in groups.. Storm/Warlock/Necro/New Soul... Pyro/Warlock/Archon/Element
    With Chloro and Dom as Free agents spicing up the mix...
    Chloro/New Soul/Warlock... or Warlock/New Soul/Necro Could add that "Tanking" mage people have been looking for.. (Though how holding aggro is going to work I'm not sure..)

    Magical Mitigation or "Spell Armor" for damage absorption/redirection is really the only real area mages are lacking in it's like the Devs forgot that Magic would be researched for anything besides blowing things up in their world (Our short duration/long cooldown shields are okay but they under perform when compared to other callings) And I think it would be cool to add the "Hulk" factor to a mage.. Add a scaling buff that up's the Spell Power the more damage they absorb..

    or in lieu of that A Teleporting Highly Mobile Soul would be nice a "Riftstalker" for mages that buffs def and life Just my hope
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gehrgontra View Post
    I can see Trion going in one of four directions with this; a healing soul, a dps soul, a tank soul, or a soul that combines tank/dps somehow.
    I'll take a tank/dps mage please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amarayna View Post
    I'll take a tank/dps mage please!
    Same, im praying for a defensive soul than will have synergy on a par with the Riftstalker rogue soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Howling View Post
    because really fireball spam is getting a bit old..
    If you are spamming Fireball you are doing it very, very, very wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pett View Post
    Same, im praying for a defensive soul than will have synergy on a par with the Riftstalker rogue soul.
    Trion have said they are focusing on making sure the new souls synergise well. I have faith they'll give us something good, they don't want to spend all their development on something useless. Good chance whatever we get will be overpowered on release.

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    My guess is: plan to enjoy spark for a long long time.

    Mage tank soul should happen though. Or Mage melee soul!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayakov View Post
    I would love a mage tanking soul but for some reason... I think that's not going to happen. I think we're going to end up with a second healing soul that is the mage equivalent of puri, something with a lot of shielding.

    Archon + Archon 2.0.
    Last edited by Ardus; 06-07-2012 at 02:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primalthirst View Post
    If you are spamming Fireball you are doing it very, very, very wrong.
    Trion have said they are focusing on making sure the new souls synergise well. I have faith they'll give us something good, they don't want to spend all their development on something useless. Good chance whatever we get will be overpowered on release.
    QFT. I can envision other people QQing about the new mage soul and having to recalculate spell coefficients. I shouldn't even bother calculating until that happens...

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    Hey all, a bit more info in this thread on some of the stuff coming for the classes with the expansion:

    http://forums.riftgame.com/rift-gene...rm-legion.html

    I'd love to be able to give you more info, but that's all that's being given out at this time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormchild View Post
    im going to put 50 bucks on 'Spellblade' or 'Spellsword'- a melee/magic hybrid
    If we're placing bets on what the new soul is going to be I want in...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kervik View Post
    Hey all, a bit more info in this thread on some of the stuff coming for the classes with the expansion:

    http://forums.riftgame.com/rift-gene...rm-legion.html

    I'd love to be able to give you more info, but that's all that's being given out at this time.



    If we're placing bets on what the new soul is going to be I want in...
    "I'd love to be able to give you more info, but that's all that's being given out at this time."

    How about some feedback on our current useless soul?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrownsMageNerfDelivery View Post
    Why in the name of all that is holy would anyone want a melee DPS soul? I'm thinking mostly how irritating ID is for melee.
    Not to mention how worthless a melee DPS soul would be for a mage in PvP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremiahcp View Post
    How about some feedback on our current useless souls?
    Fixed for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kervik View Post
    Hey all, a bit more info in this thread on some of the stuff coming for the classes with the expansion:

    http://forums.riftgame.com/rift-gene...rm-legion.html

    I'd love to be able to give you more info, but that's all that's being given out at this time.



    If we're placing bets on what the new soul is going to be I want in...
    K, so from the link I gather that there are going to be quite a few changes along the lines we've been guessing (potential soul overhaul along with the new one being added).


    Q: Will there be any changes to the callings pre level 50?
    A: Yes, each soul is getting a full review and potentially some significant adjustments. The amount of changes will vary from soul to soul but almost everyone will have new things to play with pre-50. Overall we’re trying to keep the level 1 to 50 experience as close to the current versions as possible. But we’re definitely taking this opportunity to improve things, and address some larger projects players have been asking for in their live feedback.
    So we have potentially significant adjustments to souls while at the same time avoiding overhauls unless they feel the players would be happy with certain changes. This could mean anything from "Elementalist is being made the mage tank so shut up about that already" to "deep Elementalist is going to be worth taking at any gear level". On the subject of scaling;

    Q: What does Storm Legion mean for overall game balance?
    A: Obviously a new expansion with new abilities will introduce a lot of new challenges balancing the game. An expansion is also an opportunity for us to do some larger projects to continue to clean up and improve game balance. For example, we’re continuing to work on streamlining how ability effectiveness scales with stats and gear to make sure all callings grow equally in power as they level and obtain new items.
    Ability scaling is being looked at based on stats so all callings are going to be relatively equally awesome at equal gear. Hopefully this would extend to the souls within the callings, but as we all know there's always going to be a "Top DPS Spec" with everything else being judged on that. What I want to know is if the difference between "Top" and "what I roll with because I like the style" is going to be a huge difference or a smaller one. The answer to this, I firmly believe, is dependant on whether pet scaling is fixed. It really is quite amazing that pet souls are incredibly awesome from level 1 to Lord Greenscale, but from Murdantix onward they quickly become the worst options available.

    Also Kervik, if you would join in on the bet as to what the new soul will be that would be great! Then we would know what we're getting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primalthirst View Post
    If you are spamming Fireball you are doing it very, very, very wrong.
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    Fireball Flame bolt Inferno Countdown, Hell even fulmination is all just variations of "LOOK I just threw fire at you.. HAHA!" Very lacking in style hell it's not even very visually appealing.. it just works which was my point.

    The other souls can muddle through well enough... but that is NOT how it's supposed to work.. They gimped the mechanics of most of the other souls.. I.E. The whole electrofied/hypo mechanic of SC's needs to be reworked.. Like the Pacts on VK's or the Cabalist.. so that Enemies with in 30' of the mage automatically start building charges and spells like lighting field/burst use them and spells like Forked Lighting Simply get stronger over time like how they intended. And just scrap the Hypo mechanic as anything other then a Snare or hr long buff applies a stacking snare when water damage is applied (not just from the SC soul).. Follow the K.I.S.S.(keep it simple stupid) Principal Players have a metric *BEEP* Ton to watch and do already, mages more then most since we don't get many "Ooops" and screwing up/interrupting our chain is more costly DPS wise.. then in most other callings (Namely the longer Global cooldown, which again pyro got a fix for too deep in the tree for most other builds to use profitably) BUT, Yeah I digressed a bit. Point is Pyro needs to be shelved for awhile.. Its a AWESOME soul spec not arguing that.. Just saying it's been done to death and showed much love from the boys and girls at Trion, Time for other souls to get polished now is all..


    (and lets think about this as a parting shot... Mages are supposed to be big damage softies BUT most of its souls are support in nature Archon/Chloro/Warlock/Elementalist/Necro/Dom <--- they HELP damage some what but at their core they are support and survivability lol Ironic that only 2 are Really damage centered and the survivability they add is weak sauce speaking comparatively. It kind of boxes us players into a corner.. SO I don't think giving us Tank+Damage will break anything given the fact that the other callings can do our DPS With MUCH more survivability)... Only other thing I hope they fix soon is getting rid of the Gear Driven system.. Doing endless raids for just a CHANCE at a Item lotto is boring stuff.. Or Beef the crafting system up so that it offers a hard challenges for MAKING stuff of the same level so those disposed can avoid the endless "needers" and the social experience involved with 20 strangers doing the hokey pokey(the mechanics have gotten silly in boss fights,) around one boss for 20 minutes..

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    Ele/necro is the new defilemancer of Storm legion. Just wait.

    Oh and tank soul pleaser Kervik. By the way, can you ignore the bugs that affect 1% of the mage community and fix the useless souls that affect 100% of the mage community?

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    As much as I love hearing some of the really cool ideas have for souls, I hope some people do realize that the souls are already pretty much planned out.... Like asking for the soul that you want will probably have zero impact on anything. And demanding it is kind of worse...
    Just have fun with it while we wait, like I said its fun to comtemplate because there is a lot of great things it COULD be, but don't limit yourself to being satisfied with only one result and don't judge what it ends up as against an ideal.
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