Kervik pillaging stone?

[Sariina]

To be fair, I don't think anybody in here wins...

Unless we get rid of duels in instances, then everybody does.

[Ajax1114]

The trouble is that for me it adds under 4%, but that's only because I have really low gear and the flat stat upgrade is a higher percentage of my actual stats. This was also a parse of the difference between not using it at all, and pre-stacking, the worst case scenario.

Pre-stacking it will not be noticeable in the grand scheme of things. Most fights come down to "Did you stand in the fire?" types of problems when something goes wrong. The people that do this just saw someone else do it and think "Thats' a good idea" not realizing how it's annoying it really is and how little it actually does.

Also, doesn't pillaging stone debuff the target too? I'm pretty sure it does, and doesn't get overwritten. So by not casting it in the fight aren't you hurting the raid overall anyway? So not only are you holding everyone up in order to be selfish and pad your stats, you are also not doing everything you can during the fight to make it easier on everyone else . . . Go Team!

Your main is a rogue isn't it? Your avatar kind of gives it away. Yet another ignorant person in here arguing just because he or she can.

And no, that debuff is inconsequential with the presence of an archon - something that is and should be present for most fights in the game. That's one of the dumbest arguments I've ever seen.

Increasing DPS in fights that are DPS races, or are made easier by having higher raid DPS, makes pre-stacking only a good thing and a helpful thing to the raid as a whole. But the fact that pre-stacking makes a significant difference in a mage's DPS over the course of a fight illustrates the ridiculousness of the situation.

It's like needing to pop tablets to compete with other classes. Oops, hope I didn't hit too close to home, now did I? Maybe instead of fixing rogues and energy starvation, they should just disable tablets in raid instances. You see how it sounds now?

[Sariina]

Your main is a rogue isn't it? Your avatar kind of gives it away. Yet another ignorant person in here arguing just because he or she can.

And no, that debuff is inconsequential with the presence of an archon - something that is and should be present for most fights in the game. That's one of the dumbest arguments I've ever seen.

Increasing DPS in fights that are DPS races, or are made easier by having higher raid DPS, makes pre-stacking only a good thing and a helpful thing to the raid as a whole. But the fact that pre-stacking makes a significant difference in a mage's DPS over the course of a fight illustrates the ridiculousness of the situation.

It's like needing to pop tablets to compete with other classes. Oops, hope I didn't hit too close to home, now did I? Maybe instead of fixing rogues and energy starvation, they should just disable tablets in raid instances. You see how it sounds now?

I don't play my rogue as much anymore... you fail. Still . . . relying on fervor and tablets to actually have fun is not that same as missing 40dps in a worst case scenario, and less if you actually bother to use PS as intended.

[Ajax1114]

I don't play my rogue as much anymore... you fail. Still . . . relying on fervor and tablets to actually have fun is not that same as missing 40dps in a worst case scenario, and less if you actually bother to use PS as intended.

I didn't say fervor and tablets. I just said tablets... you fail.

Using pre-stacking and using tablets before a fight - especially if you need to ask to wait for a tablet to come off cooldown - is exactly the same situation as pillaging stone in principle. Don't try to BS otherwise by tossing fervor into the mix when I never referenced it.

Yet your avatar indicates that you're following the movement of fixing rogues and energy starvation, so that they don't need to rely on tablets. Why so hypocritical? In principle, you should be asking that pillaging stone becomes more raid-friendly, not some mindless fix like "don't allow dueling in raid instances."

Yet you're not. You're either trolling or not very good at connecting the dots.

[tazman]

I've since passed my time wasting phase and have other things to bother with now. The reality is that there is not now nor can I imagine that there ever will be any sufficient reason to change or alter pillaging stones, what it does, or how it works. There just isn't.

And that is why the tread is not titled 'Azeula pillaging stone?' Truthfully it doesn't matter what you think. Obviously you are not currently dueling 20+ times a night to progress through Trion's new content.

PS dueling is a soft requirement of progression raiding and the buff should be as easy to apply as a consumable or removed entirely with a dps rebalanced. The only result of leaving it as is will be to annoy entire raids of progression customers. (And maybe make Azeula feel justified)

Note: For the record progressions raiders are those that conquer new content. This is prior to the encounters being nerfed for guys like Azeula that obviously do not bring their very best to each and every fight which allows them to not prestack, have the correct consumables, etc...

[Sariina]

I didn't say fervor and tablets. I just said tablets... you fail.

Using pre-stacking and using tablets before a fight - especially if you need to ask to wait for a tablet to come off cooldown - is exactly the same situation as pillaging stone in principle. Don't try to BS otherwise by tossing fervor into the mix when I never referenced it.

Yet your avatar indicates that you're following the movement of fixing rogues and energy starvation, so that they don't need to rely on tablets. Why so hypocritical? In principle, you should be asking that pillaging stone becomes more raid-friendly, not some mindless fix like "don't allow dueling in raid instances."

Yet you're not. You're either trolling or not very good at connecting the dots.

Except tablets themselves don't really help all that much, it's just a small amount and almost unnoticable. They also give you a non-overwritten buff... and I'm pretty sure they are off GCD, so I don't think I've ever seen anyone ask 19 people to wait around for over a minute while two fools duel to get tablets going . . . oh yeah... and they cost 2p per pop.

Plus, they also give a wisdom buff and a small amount of mana... so why aren't you using tablets? You obviously have no idea how to play.

[Ajax1114]

it's just a small amount and almost unnoticable.

That's why your avatar is in support of rogues not having to use tablets, right.

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[Calmethar]

...So not only are you holding everyone up in order to be selfish and pad your stats, you are also not doing everything you can during the fight to make it easier on everyone else . . . Go Team!

And no, that debuff is inconsequential with the presence of an archon - something that is and should be present for most fights in the game. That's one of the dumbest arguments I've ever seen.

Tried to say this in a "fun" way, only to get hit by a rude comment, so I'm not sure it's worth it to carry on the discussion with this guy :/

You do know that there's a mage soul called the Archon, right? :P

Way to rationalize your annoying selfishness.

Oh my, give up on this one.... :/

I win . . .

Ignorance is bliss of course, but if you want to be enlightened you should really read some of the previous posts, Sariina - because clearly, you have not.

[lgw]

The amount of ignorant trolling Trion is tolerating these days get's unbearable.
Because let's face it, no amount of stupid would allow you to cram so much BS into one post, because you'd be mentally challenged to a level that you couldn't write a coherent sentence in the first place.

[Sariina]

That's why your avatar is in support of rogues not having to use tablets, right.

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Everyone should have them on, they are not overwritten and are a buff. Rogues however have to use them and living/fervor to not stare at a warning message and have their GCD 30%-40% slower the entire time they play. I'd love to see the mage QQ on here if their cast time was 30% slower unless they used a tempest mirror that cost 2p every time they used it.

You guys do realize that it's just 1 energy/s for tablets, right?

Plus, how does my avatar picture have anything to do with mages being incredibly annoying every single pull just for 40dps in a best case scenario?