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    Default 1.8 Defilemancer Parses

    So pretty much what are people parsing with this spec, looking for more advice on min/maxing

    Sitting at 3k-3.2k on the dummies self buffed depending on some RNG

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    The best DPS mage in our guild hit 3.1k as a personal best on the dummy and I am new to the spec and getting around 2.7k-2.8k right now.

    I would imagine you are right around where you should be. What would be more useful is to post a screenshot with the damage breakdown and also post your SP and SC at the time of the parse.
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    As long as your above 3k your pretty much doing what your supposed to I guess

    I'm anywhere between 3.1 and 3.4 but I imagine there are some mages who can go a lot higher
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    Quote Originally Posted by HorseMonkey View Post
    The best DPS mage in our guild hit 3.1k as a personal best on the dummy and I am new to the spec and getting around 2.7k-2.8k right now.

    I would imagine you are right around where you should be. What would be more useful is to post a screenshot with the damage breakdown and also post your SP and SC at the time of the parse.
    You didn't mention that said mage still doesn't have an Akylios relic.

    But, yes, damage breakdowns as well as gear/stat info would be more beneficial to discussion rather than just throwing around numbers (though I don't doubt OP can pull what he claims).

    As Horsemonkey said my best parses are around 3.1k (sometimes peaking closer to 3.2k); I have near-BiS HK gear (but no Akylios relic), and ~340 PA levels. I'm still working on mastering the spec so I could probably be a bit higher, but those are my numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turtleman View Post
    But, yes, damage breakdowns as well as gear/stat info would be more beneficial to discussion rather than just throwing around numbers (though I don't doubt OP can pull what he claims).
    Agreed - if one of the mages who is hitting >3.1k could post an act breakdown and their stats it would be a great help!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhemo View Post
    Agreed - if one of the mages who is hitting >3.1k could post an act breakdown and their stats it would be a great help!
    He's hitting 3.1k consistently on the dummies. Now if he'd actually listen to me and stop clipping life leech so often and fireball harder, he'd probably be hitting over 3.2k.

    He's running near BiS (Flametalon/Word of Pain/AMoP) with 40k+ PA's. Full Consumables and not pre-casting any SP trinkets prior to starting the parse (Glob of Crystallized Blood/Alsbeth's Focusing Orb).

    His breakdowns are usually Fireball 16% - Countdown 14% - Searing 13% etc...
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    i must be doing somethign wrong, 2200sp with powerstone/vial/pillaging/food and only 2900dps over 5min. pretty sure my problem is combust falling off to much as its only 9% of my dmg. also i ****ed up sac life 2x over 5min by hitting IC through habbit.
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    yeah i'm definitely doing it wrong. would anyone be so kind as to give me some advice?

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    Default Guess I am just fail

    No matter how many guides I read or the 2 weeks of trying, I still cant break 2.5k
    Should I not hit Flame bolt X3 when it procs?

    I will gladly post a parse, but is there a better guide than bluedots?

    I wanna learn it so that may teach my fellow mages it, so that we can sit at the top of the parse where we belong!
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    If you use a rotation your doing it wrong. Its quite hard to teach someone the spec too, its not just hit these buttons in this order. You have to react to the dot timers and know what your doing/using.

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    Well thanks for responding

    I looked into what i was doing a little closer and TBH I think its charge management.

    If I can get to where it should be I will try and add to the knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BehemothDog View Post
    Well thanks for responding

    I looked into what i was doing a little closer and TBH I think its charge management.

    If I can get to where it should be I will try and add to the knowledge.
    Charge can't possibly be an issue since sac life is up 15 out of every 30 seconds.

    Most of the time, the issue lies in not enough fireballs, clipping dots and not keeping combust stacks up.
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    Not really got any dummy parses but from our progression (and finally downing) Ituziel tonight I was ranging between 3.5 and 3.9k dps depending on encounter RNG e.g. wave dodging!

    Something I've always wondered - is combust preferable to all other DoTs as in faced with say either countdown/defile being off but also losing combust do you choose fireball/flamebolt top priority to keep combust?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexTrickle View Post
    Not really got any dummy parses but from our progression (and finally downing) Ituziel tonight I was ranging between 3.5 and 3.9k dps depending on encounter RNG e.g. wave dodging!

    Something I've always wondered - is combust preferable to all other DoTs as in faced with say either countdown/defile being off but also losing combust do you choose fireball/flamebolt top priority to keep combust?
    Even though Combust only hits for 300-600 per tick raid buffed, it's ticking twice as fast as all the other dots, save for SV. Thus, it is a higher priority, for me. This doesn't mean let all your other dots drop off, but if i get a wildfire proc, you know I'm spacing those out to maintain combust stacks.

    That being said, Countdown and Defile are still more important.
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    highest i've got is 3550 dummy since the patch release. (5 minute parse)

    With full BiS HK gear
    max dps PA
    good rng

    3400ish is a solid avg though.
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