Play this spec or go home....

[Joker89]

Sup, i just wanna hear others opinions about Rift Mage Class system.

What really sold me on Rift was the in depth class system, been melee dps in ever other MMO i've played and my first thought was "oh crap, all them spec possibilities, finally a game i can play a spec for me not the meta spec" man it seems i was dead wrong.

If i was to go as the spec i found and enjoy the most, no doubt if it whernt for being in an epic guild i'd have no chance at playing it in a raid environment.

I enjoy the warlock soul, alot. I don't like pets, and i love the fear control and CC with good survivability.

But, the damage isn't there. I wanna play my spec, but not feel like a 3rd wheel with poor DPS simply because of the fact that the class is weaker than SC/Ele or Pyro/ele.

I honestly feel like i can't escape the MMO rule of "to be this good, you need this spec" Is it too much to ask to make all the "Offensive Souls" equally viable?

To anyone actually curious to my lock build, it's 51 lock with 10 in Dom to get the +10% intel and the decresed cast time of next spell after casting a controlling or movement impairing affect, and 5 in ele for the %5 crit to spells.

Rotations is simple, maintain dots and spam Void Bolts, while using Sacrifice Life: Damage and Empowered Darkness at the right times to upkeep my DPS. Havn't tested the DPS, but it's never been mentioned as a raid spec that i know of and i know it won't stand up to the other meta raid specs out there, namely the posterchild of mage dps for raids of SC/Ele, which i'm getting tired of hearing "it's the best spec" i get it. it's the strongest, but i don't wanna play it just because i have to.

I wanna play what i enjoy.

Does anyone else feel the same way?

[Ghazghkul]

all mages "wish" that all offensive souls we equally stong, but that is not the case. Which is why we have to find out which one is the best just to compete with rogues/warriors at dps.

[Joker89]

all mages "wish" that all offensive souls we equally stong, but that is not the case. Which is why we have to find out which one is the best just to compete with rogues/warriors at dps.

I know, but doesn't that just kinda kill the fun of the game?

"We got an indepth class system thats fully customizable to suit your playstyle! but only this and this is any good and you'll probably suck at life if you don't play them.. have fun!"

Seriously, it's kinda depressing =|

[LLamaPie]

Yep. Mages are the least flexible because Trion finds the need to nerf us all the time for no F'ing reason. SC/Ele is excellent and I actually played it long before people discovered how good it was - now its getting a huge crippling nerf and its leaving us with nothing. Its really disappointing.

[Joker89]

Sigh, i really hope they fix this. Not to troll but WoW at least got close with balancing specs for raiding.

For instance, the difference between Arcane to Fire was not overwhelming like it is here, you could raid anything as either spec and do very well.

I know, they had 6 years now to figure it out.

I'm a stay as my spec, i love it alot. But if they could just improve on the damage to at least break 1k i'd be happy.

[Rass3ngan]

you chose a levelling + CC spec, if you want more damage put some points in a damage one?
warlock/dom has great survivability, and that comes at the cost of damage. it's a trade-off like so much else.

[DontBluffMyJ]

warlock 51 is one of the weakest souls in the game, i tried it few times and empowered darkness lasts less then 5 seconds / 2 spells and also bugged and the damage isn't scaling right in pvp warfronts (or not scaling at all). you also cant use defile if you save the charge which is pretty stupid.

this one will survive gankers much often, just my opinion.

http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1z...sqxo.xtfxVzo0s

[Joker89]

Ya, i've been told about the Necro/Lock build, but i hate pets lol... never liked a pet class and never will.

This just sucks, why call Warlock an "Offensive Soul" when it can't keep it's own in a raid environment.

[LatsyrcMoy]

Unfortunately the "Best" Warlock build tend to include Necro for a pet.

I have one that I use that has no pet, but it takes a ton of work to pull down 700 dps with it.

When 25% of your Calling is dedicated to pets...

[Frailboy]

It's not possible to make all souls do the same damage, especially if you can mix and match 3 of them with 66 talent points.

What we need is for some of them to be close to each other, and for people to play souls for some other reason than straight dps. For example if a pyro brought 5% spell crit to a raid, a warlock brought 5% spell power increase raid buff, a dom brought 10% reduction to caster GCD raid buff etc. If I did 200 dps less than the top mage dps spec but I was bringing a 5% spell power buff, a raid would take me, and the 200 dps issue would not make me feel bad.

If mages(ignoring support/heals) are only being brought to raids for dps then trion does need to get them closer to each other in damage, having 9 souls and everyone playing one cookie cutter build is silly.

[Joker89]

It's not possible to make all souls do the same damage, especially if you can mix and match 3 of them with 66 talent points.

What we need is for some of them to be close to each other, and for people to play souls for some other reason than straight dps. For example if a pyro brought 5% spell crit to a raid, a warlock brought 5% spell power increase raid buff, a dom brought 10% reduction to caster GCD raid buff etc. If I did 200 dps less than the top mage dps spec but I was bringing a 5% spell power buff, a raid would take me, and the 200 dps issue would not make me feel bad.

If mages(ignoring support/heals) are only being brought to raids for dps then trion does need to get them closer to each other in damage, having 9 souls and everyone playing one cookie cutter build is silly.

Thats right on the money, i whole heartedly agree.

[Delolith]

all mages "wish" that all offensive souls we equally stong, but that is not the case. Which is why we have to find out which one is the best just to compete with rogues/warriors at dps.

Because warriors can do the highest DPS with all their DPS souls? Try to compared non pet DPS with pet DPS. There is a SINGLE spec that makes warrior do significant damage.

[Joker89]

Because warriors can do the highest DPS with all their DPS souls? Try to compared non pet DPS with pet DPS. There is a SINGLE spec that makes warrior do significant damage.

Ya, i have a 30 war alt i was running but i saw the only 1 spec to raid with was Cham/BM.... This games Class system needs a serious revamp.

[Mezkh]

PvP is much more flexible, you can play many specs there. In a min-maxing set raid environment? not so much.

[TheLeviathan]

Because warriors can do the highest DPS with all their DPS souls? Try to compared non pet DPS with pet DPS. There is a SINGLE spec that makes warrior do significant damage.

Not sure "significant" is the proper way to describe the highest DPS spec in the game.