Why do you say it does not take skill?

[AvdielZion]

I looked at the pyro tree, as well as the spells.

Pyro seem a bit complicated to me. I have yet to see ANY build, as well as why they took what they took. When I did find a few builds, they were all different not just the 2nd & 3rd souls, but in the Pyro tree itself.

Then I found out and the rotation seem more complicated than a rogues stunlock, not to mention that they wear paper.

The low level spells the Pyro gets dont seem to put out the damage we seem to think we see in WF. Is there something I am missing? Are Pyros just not good at lower levels? Are they using other souls/potions to make those 300 damge hits?

Also what souls are good combined with Pyro? All this seems to me to take some skill to understand and use.

[Gumdrawp]

51 pyro 10 lock 5 archmage, sit in GoS and spam fireball+flame bolt, cast cinder burst when it procs, use your aoe stuns/snares effectively and fulminate at 100 charge. It's pretty simple, and id say pyros are better at higher levels becuase GoS and fulminate+cinder burst is what makes it so broken right now. If i crit a cinderburst+fulminate right now on my mage itll hit for ~8kish within 1 gcd, add that to being CC immune and taking ~50% less damage and you can see why pyros are fotm right now.

[Scase]

51 pyro 10 lock 5 archmage, sit in GoS and spam fireball+flame bolt, cast cinder burst when it procs, use your aoe stuns/snares effectively and fulminate at 100 charge. It's pretty simple, and id say pyros are better at higher levels becuase GoS and fulminate+cinder burst is what makes it so broken right now. If i crit a cinderburst+fulminate right now on my mage itll hit for ~8kish within 1 gcd, add that to being CC immune and taking ~50% less damage and you can see why pyros are fotm right now.

Or don't be a loser and don't use GoS, but that's just me I guess.

[BeanSlave]

Or don't be a loser and don't use GoS, but that's just me I guess.

How does not using an ability make you "not a loser"?

Don't be a loser and don't use your mouse to turn.
Don't be a loser and don't use your heal spells to heal yourself.
Don't be a loser and don't use your car to drive to grandmas (over the hills and through the woods).
Don't be a loser and don't use your lungs to breath.

Do you also only use one hand when playing this game? Actually don't answer that one...

[Sarg]

Just because it's harder than pre-patch stunlock doesn't make it hard.

[MoonDragn]

Pyros are one of the easier souls to play. The spell rotations are simple and you aren't cluttered with too many buttons to press.

The rest is all about timing, when and where to use certain spells. It certainly isn't as complex as some of the other mage souls.

[Scase]

How does not using an ability make you "not a loser"?

Don't be a loser and don't use your mouse to turn.
Don't be a loser and don't use your heal spells to heal yourself.
Don't be a loser and don't use your car to drive to grandmas (over the hills and through the woods).
Don't be a loser and don't use your lungs to breath.

Do you also only use one hand when playing this game? Actually don't answer that one...

Yeah the same way warriors macroing their way to win with 2 buttons didn't make them losers. It's the easy way out simple as that.

Pyros are one of the easier souls to play. The spell rotations are simple and you aren't cluttered with too many buttons to press.

The rest is all about timing, when and where to use certain spells. It certainly isn't as complex as some of the other mage souls.

Eh I usually go through anywhere from 8-15 different skills/button presses in a single fight, I dunno where you think there aren't many button presses.

[BeanSlave]

Yeah the same way warriors macroing their way to win with 2 buttons didn't make them losers. It's the easy way out simple as that.

Eh I usually go through anywhere from 8-15 different skills/button presses in a single fight, I dunno where you think there aren't many button presses.

Using the abilities that are available to you does not make you a loser. It's as simple as that.


Now, if someone chooses a calling based solely (souly? ) on the availability of and easy-mode, well that's a different story. Even then, just because someone can one-button content and have it work, that doesn't mean it is the best way to do it. Think of how much better someone could be if they learned all of their abilities and when/how to use them most effectively.

Number of buttons does not equal skill. If that was the case, everyone would know Morse code...

[MoonDragn]

Eh I usually go through anywhere from 8-15 different skills/button presses in a single fight, I dunno where you think there aren't many button presses.

Name them. I'm talking about a pure Pyromancer. Not a mix of other souls. Compared to the other mages Pyros have the least amount of buttons to worry about.

[Captain Fail]

51 pyro 10 lock 5 archmage, sit in GoS and spam fireball+flame bolt, cast cinder burst when it procs, use your aoe stuns/snares effectively and fulminate at 100 charge. It's pretty simple, and id say pyros are better at higher levels becuase GoS and fulminate+cinder burst is what makes it so broken right now. If i crit a cinderburst+fulminate right now on my mage itll hit for ~8kish within 1 gcd, add that to being CC immune and taking ~50% less damage and you can see why pyros are fotm right now.

I agree that the survivability and burst is powerful. However, I call bull on 8k within one GCD. Show me a video, screenshots or the like and I'll believe it. Fulminate CAN crit for 4kish for many mages, but cinder burst won't crit nearly as hard. Unless you're talking about playing with the red buff from WFs.

Also, it'd be 2 GCDs, as neither cinder burst nor fulminate are off the GCD.