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    Quote Originally Posted by Byona View Post
    Inquisitor:
    5123sp
    1627sc
    502cp

    Code:
    TYPE                           DAMAGE     ENCDPS     AVERAGE    MEDIAN  MINHIT  MAXHIT  RESIST  HITS  SWINGS  TOHIT   CRIT%  
    All                            2,315,842  11,027.82  4,462.12   1,810   602     33,699  All     519   519     100.00  33%    
    Bolt of Retribution            725,725    3,455.83   10,221.48  8,722   8,091   15,996  Life    71    71      100.00  27%    
    Nysyr's Rebuke                 608,330    2,896.81   25,347.08  31,043  13,799  33,699  Life    24    24      100.00  63%    
    Bolt of Depravity              315,581    1,502.77   13,149.21  10,785  9,205   18,275  Death   24    24      100.00  46%    
    Scourge                        310,389    1,478.04   2,424.91   1,964   1,810   3,299   Death   128   128     100.00  45%    
    Sanction Heretic               111,823    532.49     7,987.36   9,312   5,497   10,833  Life    14    14      100.00  50%    
    Sanction                       98,868     470.80     784.67     602     602     1,013   Life    126   126     100.00  44%    
    Symbol of Corruption           86,392     411.39     981.73     808     690     1,370   Death   88    88      100.00  0%     
    Storm of the Indomitable Mind  30,374     144.64     1,687.44   1,671   1,533   1,825   Air     18    18      100.00  0%     
    Dehydrate                      11,114     52.92      1,111.40   923     923     1,551   Water   10    10      100.00  30%    
    Aggressive Renewal             10,010     47.67      2,502.50   2,139   2,139   3,593   Death   4     4       100.00  25%
    Shaman:
    4797sp
    1627sc
    502cp

    Code:
    TYPE                           DAMAGE     ENCDPS     AVERAGE    MEDIAN  MINHIT  MAXHIT  RESIST    HITS  SWINGS  TOHIT   CRIT%  
    All                            2,349,906  11,407.31  3,024.33   1,603   269     28,729  All       777   781     99.49   36%    
    Massive Blow                   462,441    2,244.86   16,515.75  18,247  10,172  28,729  Physical  28    28      100.00  54%    
    Crushing Blow                  313,324    1,520.99   6,394.37   5,506   5,194   9,449   Physical  49    49      100.00  27%    
    Frozen Wrath                   277,533    1,347.25   3,558.12   2,859   2,574   6,664   Water     78    78      100.00  41%    
    Icy Blow                       275,049    1,335.19   5,500.98   4,519   4,052   7,705   Water     50    50      100.00  36%    
    Vengeance of the Winter Storm  229,275    1,112.99   1,194.14   1,008   491     2,101   Water     192   192     100.00  37%    
    Brutalize                      220,137    1,068.63   2,751.71   2,923   1,556   6,812   Physical  80    80      100.00  18%    
    Jolt                           216,043    1,048.75   8,001.59   5,882   5,420   15,025  Air       27    27      100.00  37%    
    Combined Effort                168,712    818.99     12,977.85  10,196  9,336   17,111  Physical  13    13      100.00  46%    
    Lightning                      101,619    493.30     564.55     523     269     1,035   Air       180   180     100.00  53%    
    Auto Attack                    49,172     238.70     910.59     930     616     1,629   Physical  54    54      100.00  0%     
    Lightning Hammer               28,159     136.69     2,346.58   2,020   1,940   3,533   Air       12    12      100.00  25%    
    Deep Freeze                    0          0.00       NaN        0       0       0       Unknown   0     4       0.00    NaN
    wtb a spec on par with other callings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daglar View Post
    I wanted to come out and say the following pretty definitively: There is no goal to make DPS clerics that DPS do less damage than other callings.

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    Inquisitor with 5 stacks defiler.
    4797sp
    1627sc
    502cp

    Code:
    TYPE                           DAMAGE     ENCDPS     AVERAGE    MEDIAN  MINHIT  MAXHIT  RESIST    HITS  SWINGS  TOHIT   CRIT%  
    All                            2,498,607  11,357.30  4,670.29   1,809   603     34,761  All       535   535     100.00  30%    
    Bolt of Retribution            817,979    3,718.09   10,623.10  9,035   8,346   16,270  Life      77    77      100.00  27%    
    Nysyr's Rebuke                 618,765    2,812.57   25,781.88  24,227  14,430  34,761  Life      24    24      100.00  63%    
    Bolt of Depravity              366,419    1,665.54   14,093.04  16,203  9,666   19,097  Death     26    26      100.00  54%    
    Scourge                        315,784    1,435.38   2,429.11   2,034   1,809   3,416   Death     130   130     100.00  38%    
    Sanction Heretic               121,037    550.17     8,069.13   6,667   5,944   10,665  Life      15    15      100.00  47%    
    Sanction                       102,902    467.74     797.69     624     619     1,048   Life      129   129     100.00  41%    
    Symbol of Corruption           100,894    458.61     1,062.04   1,215   724     1,432   Death     95    95      100.00  0%     
    Storm of the Indomitable Mind  34,986     159.03     1,666.00   1,656   1,515   1,790   Air       21    21      100.00  0%     
    Aggressive Renewal             10,600     48.18      2,650.00   2,265   2,265   3,805   Death     4     4       100.00  25%    
    Auto Attack                    3,814      17.34      762.80     723     710     848     Physical  5     5       100.00  0%
    Wtb a melee spec that can do higher than ranged spec.

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    Give me 100 plat Byona for your inq parse with my 5 stack of blight strat.


    Apart from that, we should test it with raid buff/debuff.
    I'm pretty sure devs can put a thing like that (like my idea in Dungeons&Raid section on EE conqueror thread to give to regulos raid statut (reward from EE conqueror) all buff on you and all debuff on ennemies in the dimensions).

    Anyway, wtb "true dps souls".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byona View Post
    Wtb a melee spec that can do higher than ranged spec.
    2.2 Patch Notes
    • Removed Avalanche Strike and Strike of the Maelstrom from Shaman
    • New Shaman talent: Glory of the Hallowed - self buff, lasts 1h, increases ST damage by 10% and critical power by 5%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrinnz View Post
    2.2 Patch Notes
    • Removed Avalanche Strike and Strike of the Maelstrom from Shaman
    • New Shaman talent: Glory of the Hallowed - self buff, lasts 1h, increases ST damage by 10% and critical power by 5%.

    fixt!
    Wtb a melee ST spec that can do similar dps to other callings melee ST souls AoE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byona View Post
    Wtb a melee ST spec that can do similar dps to other callings melee ST souls AoE.
    do you want to be competitive with paragon or riftblade, because paragon is on top even before rb gets nerfed
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrinnz View Post
    do you want to be competitive with paragon or riftblade, because paragon is on top even before rb gets nerfed
    Why are we not even RB level?

    We have two melee souls, one should be RB competitive one should be Paragon competitive then.

    How about BD? top Rogue melee ST, yet it has decent AoE. Your suggestion was making Shaman AoE = 0.
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    I would imagine that Shaman's can do a lot of damage because their abilities are instant melee oppose to cast time based. The global cool down are great for a Shaman.

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    Don't forget Harbinger melee spec with 1s GCD without 15% dmg reduction ;)
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    Hey all,

    There are plans to take a look at cleric dps soon, particularly the Shaman's. I'll update you all when I have a better idea on what, if any, changes are in store. More feedback on what you all are seeing on live is always welcome though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kervik View Post
    Hey all,

    There are plans to take a look at cleric dps soon, particularly the Shaman's. I'll update you all when I have a better idea on what, if any, changes are in store. More feedback on what you all are seeing on live is always welcome though.
    In pm or on forums ?

    PS : Why did you disabled all clerics ability bugged and not war/rogue ability bugged ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kervik View Post
    Hey all,

    There are plans to take a look at cleric dps soon, particularly the Shaman's. I'll update you all when I have a better idea on what, if any, changes are in store. More feedback on what you all are seeing on live is always welcome though.

    Yay kervik!


    my 2 cents:

    tweaking shaman GCD reduction ability to balance is similar to the old MoA bandaid fix that we all hated. I'd just leave it at 1 s GCD (no damage modifier) then tweak the abilities base damage to bring us up to par.

    also, for inquisitor, the burst is really quite high (at my gear level 15-17k burst for 20 seconds) then after that the sustained dps drops down so low. If possible only bring the sustained dps up without increasing burst (aka don't buff Nysrs rebuke or bolt of depravity)

    PS. i've always been jealous of mages getting good dev communication! now we get some too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aethys View Post
    In pm or on forums ?
    I said it because there is a ton of thread about it with great ideas, maybe you missed it :/

    But, we can do a summary
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redcruxs View Post
    Yay kervik!


    my 2 cents:

    tweaking shaman GCD reduction ability to balance is similar to the old MoA bandaid fix that we all hated. I'd just leave it at 1 s GCD (no damage modifier) then tweak the abilities base damage to bring us up to par.

    also, for inquisitor, the burst is really quite high (at my gear level 15-17k burst for 20 seconds) then after that the sustained dps drops down so low. If possible only bring the sustained dps up without increasing burst (aka don't buff Nysrs rebuke or bolt of depravity)

    PS. i've always been jealous of mages getting good dev communication! now we get some too...
    AN other note with Inquisitor is in any fight with movment the DPS drops to almost zero as all our key DPS abilities are either cast time or channel and our backup DPS abilities dont have much of a punch which is why Rogues and Warriors out DPS us by a large margin in fights over 2 minutes in length.

    One change that would be nice is make Nysrs like Agressive Renewal so that once cast you can move around and keep the beam going.

    An other change would be make it so that we either have an instant cast that does more damage than water jet or even just buff water jet or make it so that at 61 points in INQ Bolt of Judgment becomes instant cast but tweak its damage down a little. Either way Inqs need to be more movment friendly than they are now.


    Also anything you can do to make Shaman DPS higher would be great. Goes without saying but saying it anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daglar View Post
    I wanted to come out and say the following pretty definitively: There is no goal to make DPS clerics that DPS do less damage than other callings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrinnz View Post
    2.2 Patch Notes
    • Removed Avalanche Strike and Strike of the Maelstrom from Shaman
    • New Shaman talent: Glory of the Hallowed - self buff, lasts 1h, increases ST damage by 10% and critical power by 5%.

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