New Soul in Storm Legion

[Healsforbeer]

What new soul do you want in the xpac? Please explain if you would like a tank/mdps/rdps/heal/support/hybrid build. I personally would like another tank soul since thats what i mainly do but besides that would be cool to have a tree with a bit of everything in it. For example if ur a tank you can dip into the new soul and get a couple talents that are meant for tanking, same with dps/heals.

Though I think we will probably get some kind of a support soul since we really don't have one of those, I know we have cabicar and some others but its not quite like archon/bard. Whatever they decide it should make things interesting. Lets hear ur ideas I am sure some of you have been putting a ton of thought into this.

Happy Hunting folks
Healsforbeer

[Turrant]

I think it will be either a tanking soul or a ranged dps soul. The dps soul would be one that does not synergize with Justicar very well so it would use attacks other than life and then it would do more ranged dps than Inquisitor but have little AoE damage. Since our ranged option is very lacking compared to other callings. Oh who am I kidding, it wouldn't be that hard to make a soul go with Justicar, all people would have to do is put a couple points into Inquisitor or Sentinel to get more conviction builders. :/

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[Haptiic]

I dont care what happens in the expansion as long as when I put 66 points into dps tress(although probably more points in the expansion), I do good dps. Although to be honest im probably going to end up sitting my cleric once the time roles around to reach the new lvl cap, I'm pretty much done at this point.

[Ivengar]

Going with the idea that they will fix the HUGE hole that exists in the current cleric scaling which if done right will fix most of our DPS woes as it is I hope the new soul is a bridge soul.

What I mean by that is, on its own it would really do nothing but it would be used to improve all our existing souls.

If you think back to the old PVP tree that have basically 2 paths you could follow, one for PVP offence and one for PVP defence. What I would like to see with this new soul is a tree that splits in 3 paths. One that improves mele based skills for both mele DPS builds as well as tanking. One path that increases healing builds and lastly one that increases range DPS.

I don't think it is what they are going to do but I think it would be cool as it would open up more build options than the current 51 point standards.

[Reticularize]

Honestly, I'd love to see a "synergy" role that will buff different roles you choose. So your a tank... you can boost your mit with a talent or 2 in that tree... Inquisitor would be an effective ranged dps with some mild buffs (or possible cc?)

just a thought

[Anthony01]

Going with the idea that they will fix the HUGE hole that exists in the current cleric scaling which if done right will fix most of our DPS woes as it is I hope the new soul is a bridge soul.

What I mean by that is, on its own it would really do nothing but it would be used to improve all our existing souls.

If you think back to the old PVP tree that have basically 2 paths you could follow, one for PVP offence and one for PVP defence. What I would like to see with this new soul is a tree that splits in 3 paths. One that improves mele based skills for both mele DPS builds as well as tanking. One path that increases healing builds and lastly one that increases range DPS.

I don't think it is what they are going to do but I think it would be cool as it would open up more build options than the current 51 point standards.

Devs have already said this will not be the case. It's going to be a full powered soul as any of our other souls.

[Malark]

I got a feeling it will be a tank soul but honestly I think it would make the class more interesting if it was a damage soul.

Unfortunately the way the game is right now, a new healing soul probably wouldn't really add anything to interesting to the class. I mean they could make a Chloro style soul for the Cleric, but meh. A tank soul... would just be across the board redundant unless Trion have some plan to make Justicar become a 'non-mitigation' style tank soul and introduce a new one with potentially more mitigation with the bump to 60 but honestly I think that would be a cheap move.

Looks to me like most of the potential variety adding to the class would come from a damage soul.

Even if Trion balls up and give us a redundant new soul, there's still extensions and changes to the other trees coming that could redeem the expansion for Clerics.

[aabuster1]

What I expect for the expansion:

1. Each soul in the cleric line will become useable for its primary purpose. For example I expect the druid and shaman to be able to perform top quality melee DPS. I expect the inquisitor to perform top quality range DPS. I do expect some new limiter or rearranging of skills to further limit the ability to do dps and heals simultaneously and limit the ability to switch on the fly.

2. I expect trion is trying to give each class something new and unique within the bounds of "flavor" for that class. The flavor of the cleric is that its powers come from demons, fairies, gods, and elementals.

Thinking about this I could imagine something along the lines of a cross between a blood-mage from vanguard, a rune-keeper from LOTRO, and a bright mage from WAR. A soul that either drains the enemy of its health/powers and gives it to the group or goes for more damage by draining his own health to do more damage and debuffing to the enemy.

On a more simplified front, I expect the cleric to get a tank soul.

[Bluelightt]

I will be extremely disappointed if its a tank soul, thats the 2nd to last thing we need right now (last being another full healing soul). I would rather get a DPS soul, a full support soul, or a soul like Iven mentioned like a synergy soul.

[Eughe]

Since it is gonna be a fully functioning soul, "synergy soul" wouldn't make sense unless they make a full version of 11 inqui. Which would suck.

God help me if they make another heal soul. We have all healing types covered.

We aren't getting a support soul.

And another dps soul that doesn't scale properly or is dependant on a single 36 passive to get 65% of its power will just make everyone scream in rage.

Probably another tank soul that would give them a reason to nerf the begeezus out of justi.

Or they just take all the healing outta justi and make a new soul outta that (which seems more likely).

Either way, I think it will be a giant burf in the end.

[Malark]

Probably another tank soul that would give them a reason to nerf the begeezus out of justi.

On a more simplified front, I expect the cleric to get a tank soul.

Looks like we're all staring into the same crystal ball, tanking is a pretty simple affair at the end of the day. Keep agro, take hits, do some interrupts. Justicar does that, another tank soul would be pretty bleh when you think about it, the only real way to make it desirable would be to make it's mitigation better than Justicar.

Or they just take all the healing outta justi and make a new soul outta that (which seems more likely).

Heh doubt it but in my opinion melee healing is just a giant waste of time. It's always either too powerful or useless.... and who really wants that ? You only need to look at classes like the Warrior
Priest or Disciple of Khaine from Warhammer Online, the actual melee healing abilitties weren't anything you could really rely on in PVP and, also were either overpowereing or usleess in PVE also.

[Eughe]

If they took the MoH out of justi and expand on it, it would be useful for pvp at the very least since they could make it either range or melee or both to fit with both attack styles. And possibly make the 51 accessible at a reasonable level.

I wouldn't mind it if they made it correctly. But I'm think which is easier and either making a new tank (magic tank) or splitting justi would be the eaisest thing to do.


It could be worse, another pet class rofl.

[stefe]

In my opinion:

Cleric tank......perfect....dont screw with it. It is so well balanced that another tank soul could only possibly screw it up.


Healing.....perfect with amazing flexibility and variety....dont screw it up.

Dps...low...but a nice variety of ranged and melee...st and aoe. Just fix the scaling, remove rng from brutalize for shaman and make it 100% equally competitive.

So whats left?

A soul that provides more synergy with our melee souls and adds some pvp viability. Put spell power on our shields and give us a spec that can go toe to toe with warriors and melee rogues with some utility.

[Malark]

A soul that provides more synergy with our melee souls and adds some pvp viability. Put spell power on our shields and give us a spec that can go toe to toe with warriors and melee rogues with some utility.

I don't really see the point in making a soul just to cover up the fact that a soul like shaman has ZERO crowd control/escape abilities.

[aabuster1]

I don't really see the point in making a soul just to cover up the fact that a soul like shaman has ZERO crowd control/escape abilities.

I hope they go thru each of our DPS souls and make them equal (shaman=Champ, Inquis=pyro, Druid= other pet soul) and while they are there give each of the DPS souls an equal amount of escapes/defenses/gap closers as the other classes dps souls. If they don't I will be a very sad puppy and likely move over to my warrior full time, even if my cleric has 6K PA.

I just have this nagging feeling that when every soul in the game is gone over the cleric DPS souls will be brought up to the current games DPS levels but the other souls in the game will be moved up even further and hence leave us in the same situation we are in now.