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    Default Mien of aggression does it do what it said on the tin

    for me it not near 25% but i am a part time player so just wanted 2 see what yous think?
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    Seemed kind of like you have english as a second language.

    The question im assuming you asked is "It doesnt seem to be increaseing my dps by 25%, why is this?"


    The answer is because its additive. Right now lets say you do 1000dps. Before MoA was added you had 5% dmg from AoA and 15% dmg from CP. So thats a 20% damage increase. so you now do 1200dps.

    Adding in MoA thats 5%+25%+15% for a total of 45% damage. now you do 1450dps

    1450/1200 = 1.208 which means adding MoA caused a ~21% damage increase.


    If you have 4pc HK crystal its 1550/1300 = 1.923 which is a ~19% increase
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    Well, the Buff from MoA adds with others before it it applies to your damage.
    Don't have exact numbers in mind so this is only qualitative example.

    Let's say any spell hits for 1000 damage. You will have several talents in your soul, that already buff the spell maybe like 50% (way more one many spells) what gives you a hit of 1500. MoA adds 25% to this buff which is summed up to 75%. You now hit fpr 1000*1.75 = 1750 damage. Now thats only an increase of 16.6% from MoA to your damage without MoA.




    Awww, second one =(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quietmode View Post
    Seemed kind of like you have english as a second language.
    Could have sworn I smelled an OP Troll, but this could be it as well
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    no just read the tool tip lol
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    So i didnt answer your question?


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    sorry i could not under stand you i am not english


    but thank 2 op

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry101 View Post
    no just read the tool tip lol
    the tooltip is deceiving. It does not mean the mein gives a straight 25% from what you were doing before. It means it's adding an additional 25% in the calculations that affect the base damage of the ability.

    As stated above, the 25% is added into the 5% and 15% to calculate your total.
    Where's the Auction House to buy more DPS for my cleric?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calibrex View Post
    the tooltip is deceiving. It does not mean the mein gives a straight 25% from what you were doing before. It means it's adding an additional 25% in the calculations that affect the base damage of the ability.

    As stated above, the 25% is added into the 5% and 15% to calculate your total.
    This might be slightly off-topic but damage bonuses from various buffs are cumulative or additive?

    MoA dmg increases the base damage 25% or the bonus apply after all the calculations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indria View Post
    This might be slightly off-topic but damage bonuses from various buffs are cumulative or additive?

    MoA dmg increases the base damage 25% or the bonus apply after all the calculations?
    Should re read the thread ; ).

    Zib has said all damage adds are additive, not multiplicative. So take everything that adds a % damage and add them up, then apply this to your damage before any of them and thats what you have. Someone earlier showed the actual math.

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    So basically it doesn't work like this:
    1000base +10% AoA=1100 + 15% CP= 1265 + 25% MoA= 1581
    Instead it works like this:
    10% AoA +15% CP +25% MoA= 50%
    then 1000base +50%= 1500

    Your base damage is:
    tooltip spell damage of the ability +spell power coefficient= Base damage

    Did I do that right?
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