Steelwind's Fiery Destroyer 51 Champ risen 1.8

[windz]

I will try this out. Althought it is strange to have a 1 second delay before the next Disruptive Strike in your rotation.

The delay is worth it and maybe due to ms i dont really feel the 1sec wait.

[seppy]

so,should i add Deb strike instead of 1 FS every 10 sec or so?

[Azunia]

Except his opens with the latter part, not the former, therefore putting less CBs in a fight.

I'm sure he opens with DS TS and CB, but it isn't clear, so I just wanted to clarify it's better to open with that part.

Quote from the guide:

Rotation changes if Cornered Beast is ready to the following one:

And you obviously have CB ready at the beginning of a fight ;D

[Steelwind]

The delay is worth it and maybe due to ms i dont really feel the 1sec wait.

I'm not sure if you are performing the 1 minute rotation correctly. Would you mind parsing that again? I tried yours last night and it was consistently 40dps behind. That's not bad at all. It's on par with Shun's rotation. However, the 1 second delay before Disruptive Strike in the second part of the rotation is what I don't like. Other than that, it's solid but not the highest single target dps.

[windz]

I'm not sure if you are performing the 1 minute rotation correctly. Would you mind parsing that again? I tried yours last night and it was consistently 40dps behind. That's not bad at all. It's on par with Shun's rotation. However, the 1 second delay before Disruptive Strike in the second part of the rotation is what I don't like. Other than that, it's solid but not the highest single target dps.

Are you using debilitating strike? Also if start with 0 Ap do you open up with Bull rush -> DS -> CB or is it TS?

I just redid the parses again. This time with oil stone (leftover from raiding).

[sabtr]

Are you using debilitating strike? Also if start with 0 Ap do you open up with Bull rush -> DS -> CB or is it TS?

I just redid the parses again. This time with oil stone (leftover from raiding).

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[windz]

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oh nvm you were replying to which you open up. my bad :P.

ty.

ya i opened up with cb for both

[Steelwind]

[QUOTE=windz;3767220]Are you using debilitating strike? QUOTE]

I did not use Debilitating Strike on purpose. I also knew your parses had Debilitating Strike so I wanted to confirm where your gains are coming from. Based on your recent parses the higher dps contributed from:

1. More Disruptive Strike
2. More Earth burst with Debilitating Strike
3. More hits in your rotation with Debilitating Strike than the 1 min rotation
4. Less Frenzied Strike procs

When I parsed your rotation I can see where the increased damage from more Disruptive Strikes came from. Now onward to Debilitating Strike. The 1 min rotation was not designed for Debiliting Strike to fit in there. The top ability in the 1 min rotation is Fierce Strike. Fitting in Debilitating Strike means you lose more damage from Fierce Strike. On the flip side, the fact that your rotation lands more Earth Bursts, and I'm looking at double the damage, means you benefited from Debilitating Strike the most from this. Last, I notice that your Frenzied Strike were less in the 1 min rotation compared to yours. I believe this is one of the area where you didn't do the 1 min rotation right. In the 1 min rotation there are moments when Frenzied Strike is about to come off cooldown but you have a Cornered Beast ready to go. You need to double tap your builder, right when Frenzied Strike fires off then hit Cornered Beast.

If you can, please parse your rotation without Debilitating Strike. Then parse the 1 min rotation with Debilitating Strike. I can see your rotation benefiting the lone Warrior in raids who use it. Thank you again.

[windz]

i will do that right now.

is it mentioned anywhere that the current way debilitating strike is a bug or intentional?

[Steelwind]

i will do that right now.

is it mentioned anywhere that the current way debilitating strike is a bug or intentional?

No one knows. I wish it can benefit ALL Warriors in the raid. And I have tried to bring Atrius out of his cave to change/fix it.

Atrius please look at Debilitating Strike

[windz]

ok here are the parses i got. I made sure I got FS before CB by double tapping.

[windz]

i felt that the 1min rotation without debilitating was a little bit weak so i redid it

[intrinsc]

I thought we had determined debilitating was a DPS loss ages ago?

[windz]

I thought we had determined debilitating was a DPS loss ages ago?

I was under the impression that it is a dps gain if you are the only one using it.

[Steelwind]

I thought we had determined debilitating was a DPS loss ages ago?

It's like a 15 dps gain.