Steelwind's Fiery Destroyer 51 Champ risen 1.8

[mistacrowley420]

I think for that reason I might keep my 9/6 for dungeons because of Way of the River. Is it really best to stack as much AP as possible with this spec for raids?

I can't speak for everybody but my dps has increased since dropping crit cap and stacking ap. My dummy parses went down due to low crit % but in raids I still get a good % with all the buffs/debuffs going out. I would say it's best but some may disagree with me.

[intrinsc]

Part 1:
DS > TS
FSx2 > CB
FSx2 > FB

Part 2:
DS > TS
FSx2 > EB/IB(Earth Burst)
FSx2 > FB
FSx2 > EB/IB(Icy Burst)

Part 3:
DS > TS
FSx2 > EB/IB(Icy Burst)
FSx2 > FB
FSx2 > EB/IB(Earth Burst)

Rotation ends up being Part 1 > Part 2 > Part 3. Or, to make it even easier: Part 1 > Part 2 (repeat)

Part 2 and 3 are exactly the same. Since Part 2 and Part 3 are the same, except for where IB and EB are in the rotation, you don't need to worry about it since you will be hitting the EB/IB macro for those two either way. Please provide some feedback on the above.

[intrinsc]

I can't speak for everybody but my dps has increased since dropping crit cap and stacking ap. My dummy parses went down due to low crit % but in raids I still get a good % with all the buffs/debuffs going out. I would say it's best but some may disagree with me.

What are your unbuffed stats before raid and consumables?

[mistacrowley420]

What are your unbuffed stats before raid and consumables?

AP:1326
Crit:956

[Steelwind]

Yes it does love crit but i think going to 1020ish crit only benefits slef buffed dummy DPS more than raid DPS compared to stacking AP

That is why 51/13/2 scales the best in raids. When you guys parse 51/9/6 you are parsing with a 3% crit buff.

[sabtr]

AP:1326
Crit:956

maxed out PA?

[Faydo]

Yea because of the amount of crit you lose it's hard to be at soft cap and with AP value going up in 1.8 it's best to stack AP and try not to go under 920-930 crit unbuffed , with raid buffs the crit rating will go up and the difference between crit when AP stacked or crit stacked is none to minimal.

[intrinsc]

I think I will do that, then. Thanks, everyone.

[mistacrowley420]

maxed out PA?

Yessir
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[stan_rift]

Part 1:
DS > TS
FSx2 > CB
FSx2 > FB

Part 2:
DS > TS
FSx2 > EB/IB(Earth Burst)
FSx2 > FB
FSx2 > EB/IB(Icy Burst)

Part 3:
DS > TS
FSx2 > EB/IB(Icy Burst)
FSx2 > FB
FSx2 > EB/IB(Earth Burst)

Rotation ends up being Part 1 > Part 2 > Part 3. Or, to make it even easier: Part 1 > Part 2 (repeat)

Part 2 and 3 are exactly the same. Since Part 2 and Part 3 are the same, except for where IB and EB are in the rotation, you don't need to worry about it since you will be hitting the EB/IB macro for those two either way. Please provide some feedback on the above.

Below is the copy paste from the Azunia's guide, same rotation:

Rotation:

(starts with one attackpoint)

Disruptive Strike -> Tearing Slash
Fierce Strike -> Fierce Strike -> Earth/Icy burst (only press the macro ONCE!)
Fierce Strike -> Fierce Strike -> Fiery Burst
Fierce Strike -> Fierce Strike -> Earth/Icy burst (only press the macro ONCE!)

(repeat)

As mentioned it's important to only press the EB/IB Macro once, otherwise you will use the attackpoint generated by Earth Burst for a single AP Icy Burst. If you are a buttonmasher you should probably weave in Earth Burst with an extra Button.
In most cases it's worth to weave in Cornered Beast as well, my test have shown it to be around 50-80 DPS gain. Rotation changes if Cornered Beast is ready to the following one:

Disruptive Strike -> Tearing Slash
Fierce Strike -> Fierce Strike -> Cornered Beast
Fierce Strike -> Fierce Strike -> Fiery Burst

then continue with above rotation until its cooldown is ready again. (Every 3rd rotation)

[intrinsc]

Below is the copy paste from the Azunia's guide, same rotation:

Except his opens with the latter part, not the former, therefore putting less CBs in a fight.

I'm sure he opens with DS TS and CB, but it isn't clear, so I just wanted to clarify it's better to open with that part.

[The.Yield]

Steelwind's rotation from OP restructured or "digested" if you will for an easier read (to me at least) - Using FB expenditures as step-off points.

Fiery Destroyer Rotation Digested

What do you guys think?

[Ferboten]

Plugging it into my calculator puts this at ~150 dps ahead of 51/9/6 with full raid buffs.

[jopok]

Part 1:
DS > TS
FSx2 > CB
FSx2 > FB

Part 2:
DS > TS
FSx2 > EB/IB(Earth Burst)
FSx2 > FB
FSx2 > EB/IB(Icy Burst)

Part 3:
DS > TS
FSx2 > EB/IB(Icy Burst)
FSx2 > FB
FSx2 > EB/IB(Earth Burst)

Rotation ends up being Part 1 > Part 2 > Part 3. Or, to make it even easier: Part 1 > Part 2 (repeat)

Part 2 and 3 are exactly the same. Since Part 2 and Part 3 are the same, except for where IB and EB are in the rotation, you don't need to worry about it since you will be hitting the EB/IB macro for those two either way. Please provide some feedback on the above.

You're so cute with your colors

I tend to prefer this rotation because as I said before, it is easier to reset and easier to place cb with FP and WG.

[Steelwind]

Plugging it into my calculator puts this at ~150 dps ahead of 51/9/6 with full raid buffs.

Thank you Ferboten. It does confirm what we have seen as well.