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    Quote Originally Posted by sabtr View Post
    Best times to hit frenzied strike? Is it possible to hit one right before your first CB, if you hit it after your Desruptive Strike critted?
    Yes you hit frenzied strike just as cb is coming off cd.
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    Oh, i was referring to intrinsc's rotation
    Part 1:
    DS > TS
    FSx2 > CB
    FSx2 > FB

    Is it possible to hit an Frenzied strike after the second FS going into your first CB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabtr View Post
    Oh, i was referring to intrinsc's rotation
    Part 1:
    DS > TS
    FSx2 > CB
    FSx2 > FB

    Is it possible to hit an Frenzied strike after the second FS going into your first CB?
    If you set your ability ques to long then you can.
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    Default 51/13/2 AoE

    Been tops on the AoE meters with 51/13/2. It's been a week since I deleted 51/9/6 so I wanted to come in here to confirm. You never know until you raid HK/ID how 51/13/2 will perform. There is no downtime at all since you are not stopping then swapping roles. I've simplified the AoE macro and I think you guys should use this.

    #show Mighty Blow
    suppressmacrofailures
    equip rasmolov's champion crystal
    cast Mighty Blow
    cast Frenzied Strike

    On the flip side your single target builder macro is this

    #show Fierce Strike
    suppressmacrofailures
    equip rasmolov's beastmaster crystal
    cast Fierce Strike
    cast Frenzied Strike
    cast Flamespear

    The only AoE spec that will deal more dps than 51/13/2 is 51CH/10Para/5RB and that is the optimal AoE spec.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelwind View Post
    Been tops on the AoE meters with 51/13/2. It's been a week since I deleted 51/9/6 so I wanted to come in here to confirm. You never know until you raid HK/ID how 51/13/2 will perform. There is no downtime at all since you are not stopping then swapping roles. I've simplified the AoE macro and I think you guys should use this.

    #show Mighty Blow
    suppressmacrofailures
    equip rasmolov's champion crystal
    cast Mighty Blow
    cast Frenzied Strike

    On the flip side your single target builder macro is this

    #show Fierce Strike
    suppressmacrofailures
    equip rasmolov's beastmaster crystal
    cast Fierce Strike
    cast Frenzied Strike
    cast Flamespear

    The only AoE spec that will deal more dps than 51/13/2 is 51CH/10Para/5RB and that is the optimal AoE spec.

    -can u change crystals even when your in battle?
    -ive been changing crystals and using mb as builder and cb bf as fin.. this beats that?
    thanx on all the work youve done sw

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    Quote Originally Posted by ready View Post
    -can u change crystals even when your in battle?
    -ive been changing crystals and using mb as builder and cb bf as fin.. this beats that?
    thanx on all the work youve done sw
    You can't change crystals in combat. We all need to anticipate when an AoE trash pull is coming or if an encounter such as Aklyios requires you to switch to Champ Crystal.
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    Does the equip in the macro not cause any lag?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattya802 View Post
    Does the equip in the macro not cause any lag?
    I haven't noticed. It's only abilities that proc and has a global cooldown.
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    You also need a Power Strike single target builder macro for AoE fights with single target situations (Aky, Matron, Zilas, Maklamos). I just drag the crystals to my hotbar and switch them and my single target builder manually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zadozex View Post
    You also need a Power Strike single target builder macro for AoE fights with single target situations (Aky, Matron, Zilas, Maklamos). I just drag the crystals to my hotbar and switch them and my single target builder manually.
    I do that too. Pretty cool how we manufactured two builds into one role.
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    So lets say I swap to champ crystal on Akylios with 13/2. The rotation would be the same, except for Power Strike over Fierce Strike, will the finishers change too? Talking specifically for when you get to akylios spawning and single targeting him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabtr View Post
    So lets say I swap to champ crystal on Akylios with 13/2. The rotation would be the same, except for Power Strike over Fierce Strike, will the finishers change too? Talking specifically for when you get to akylios spawning and single targeting him.
    On Akylios the finishers are the same. You do lose a little single target dps without BM crystal but you make it up a little with Cornered Beast with Champ Crystal. CB does hit Akylios.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelwind View Post
    On Akylios the finishers are the same. You do lose a little single target dps without BM crystal but you make it up a little with Cornered Beast with Champ Crystal. CB does hit Akylios.
    In the case of 13/2 using champ crystal for ST/AoE fights, wouldnt it be more prudent to use Bladefury is the filler finisher instead of earthburst/icy burst for the +20% gain, or does the GCD make it not able to squeeze into the TS + FB rotation? i ask cause i havent tried, and sounds like it would result in only 1-2 seconds of downtime on TS.

    Additionally, with no BM crystal, would an FB/BF spam rotation for single target net higher results ?
    *gah* wish i had thought of this this weekend to test myself. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by batou079 View Post
    In the case of 13/2 using champ crystal for ST/AoE fights, wouldnt it be more prudent to use Bladefury is the filler finisher instead of earthburst/icy burst for the +20% gain, or does the GCD make it not able to squeeze into the TS + FB rotation? i ask cause i havent tried, and sounds like it would result in only 1-2 seconds of downtime on TS.

    Additionally, with no BM crystal, would an FB/BF spam rotation for single target net higher results ?
    *gah* wish i had thought of this this weekend to test myself. lol
    Off globals such as Earth Burst, Fiery Burst, Icy Burst still deal more dps. Then you are left with Bladefury with Champ Crystal vs Tearing Slash without BM crystal. Tearing Slash still beats it out single target and each bleed tick can crit. Yes I have tested this.

    On the flip side, 51/13/2 (with Champ crystal) using Power Strike, Tearing Slash, Cornered Beast and the other Riftblade finishers in the same single target rotation deals the same, if not better, single target dps as 51/9/6 (with Champ crystal). Funny huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelwind View Post
    On the flip side, 51/13/2 (with Champ crystal) using Power Strike, Tearing Slash, Cornered Beast and the other Riftblade finishers in the same single target rotation deals the same, if not better, single target dps as 51/9/6 (with Champ crystal). Funny huh?
    Yeah, this is the main point here. This does better single target than the other AoE spec (51/9/6) and equivalent (maybe slighter higher) AoE. It's defintely a slightly harder rotation than 51/9/6, but that's perfect. Slightly harder rotation, slightly more DPS. Win-Win.
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