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    Quote Originally Posted by KiLLBiLLyy View Post
    thnx for this guides are awesome for the warrior community )

    i want to ask the 4 PC set bonus you are referring is the raid tier 1 crystal or the raid tier 2 crystal ?

    i have the 4 set bonus from tier1 raid and i want to ask if i am gonna use the BM strike of the power strike in the rotation (i am referring to the 2h specs that have BM Role/BM crystal )

    the tier1 synergy gives that bonus to fierce strike but no the bleed bonus

    thnx in advance
    Usually i refer to the T2 Crystal. But with your T1 4 PC you can use Fierce Strike.
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    Default bm crystal vs champ crystal for 51chmp

    for your spec @ the top of the list::: 51 Champion / 13 Riftblade / 2 Beastmaster (Beastmaster Crystal/2H)

    How is it possible that the BM crystal is better then the Champ crystal? specially now that BM crystal has been nerfed.... i would think 20% dmg to mighty blow and cornered beast would be greater then 20% dmg increase to fierce strike spam....
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    also, is it true? power strike>mighty blow for ST now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skup View Post
    for your spec @ the top of the list::: 51 Champion / 13 Riftblade / 2 Beastmaster (Beastmaster Crystal/2H)

    How is it possible that the BM crystal is better then the Champ crystal? specially now that BM crystal has been nerfed.... i would think 20% dmg to mighty blow and cornered beast would be greater then 20% dmg increase to fierce strike spam....
    Mighty Blow deals less damage then Power Strike even WITH the Champ Crystal and considering that Fierce Strike does more than Power Strike when you have the bm crystal equipped you can see the reason. The additional bleed damage for tearing is also nice, and is certainly better than the 20% bonus for a spell you use every 30 secs.
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    Really appreciate all this information.

    Been testing all of it for the past 24 hours.

    I really enjoy using 40 champ, 26 bm, 0 rb....it is in all honesty not that far behind the other specs at all, its easy as to use as well. What do you use for AOE in that spec though, is it just mighty blow/blade fury spam....or do I use feral sweep?

    I also like using the 51 champ 9 para, extremely easy to use and has beastly aoe, the 2.1 spec you posted seems to sometimes be ahead of this spec and sometimes falls behind...I dont think I willl use the 2.1 spec because you seem to lose a bit of raid awareness because im concentrating a bit too hard on what to use next haha, i guess it comes with practice.

    Interesting to see which scales the best in raid, guildies seem to think 2.1 spec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeypher View Post
    Really appreciate all this information.

    Been testing all of it for the past 24 hours.

    I really enjoy using 40 champ, 26 bm, 0 rb....it is in all honesty not that far behind the other specs at all, its easy as to use as well. What do you use for AOE in that spec though, is it just mighty blow/blade fury spam....or do I use feral sweep?

    I also like using the 51 champ 9 para, extremely easy to use and has beastly aoe, the 2.1 spec you posted seems to sometimes be ahead of this spec and sometimes falls behind...I dont think I willl use the 2.1 spec because you seem to lose a bit of raid awareness because im concentrating a bit too hard on what to use next haha, i guess it comes with practice.

    Interesting to see which scales the best in raid, guildies seem to think 2.1 spec.
    You have to use Feral Sweep as you dont use the Champ Crystal, so BF's cooldown is to long to be spammed.

    In all of my tests 2.1 was quite a bit ahead of 2.2 and the gap seemed only to widen in ID gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azunia View Post
    You have to use Feral Sweep as you dont use the Champ Crystal, so BF's cooldown is to long to be spammed.

    In all of my tests 2.1 was quite a bit ahead of 2.2 and the gap seemed only to widen in ID gear.
    Ah yeah no ****, forgot about that....

    Yeah I was testing 2.1 a lot today, a lot more fluent with it, seems to be far ahead.

    I think fights like Aky, Grug, Matron would be better off using 2.2, since you have a natural aoe finisher.

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    Not sure if already posted

    Spec I found as of today on PTS:


    51 Champion / 4 Reaver / 11 Riftblade

    link: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0c...udz.L.eM00z.-5

    selfbuffs: Binding of Affliction, Destroyer's Bearing, Stormblade

    Rotation (Same as 51 Champion / 9 Paragon build)

    (starts with one attackpoint)

    Disruptive Strike -> Fiery Burst
    Power Strike -> Power Strike -> Bladefury
    Power Strike -> Power Strike -> Bladefury

    Cornered Beast is also a DPS upgrade so if the CD is up use:

    Disruptive Strike -> Fiery Burst
    Power Strike -> Power Strike -> Cornered Beast
    Power Strike -> Power Strike -> Bladefury

    I pull about 2800-2900 DPS single target which is the same as all the other specs in this thread.

    I parse in HK gear from the vendor and about 20k PA spend.

    Would be cool if people with more PA could test this build as I lose about 100-200 dps because of it on all other builds posted so far.



    My guess is that this build should scale pretty well with PA and more gear as you have a 5% damage increase buff.

    Any input is welcome

    Edit: put in link for the build
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flexjeh View Post
    Not sure if already posted

    Spec I found as of today on PTS:


    51 Champion / 4 Reaver / 11 Riftblade

    link: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0c...udz.L.eM00z.-5

    selfbuffs: Binding of Affliction, Destroyer's Bearing, Stormblade

    Rotation (Same as 51 Champion / 9 Paragon build)

    (starts with one attackpoint)

    Disruptive Strike -> Fiery Burst
    Power Strike -> Power Strike -> Bladefury
    Power Strike -> Power Strike -> Bladefury

    Cornered Beast is also a DPS upgrade so if the CD is up use:

    Disruptive Strike -> Fiery Burst
    Power Strike -> Power Strike -> Cornered Beast
    Power Strike -> Power Strike -> Bladefury

    I pull about 2800-2900 DPS single target which is the same as all the other specs in this thread.

    I parse in HK gear from the vendor and about 20k PA spend.

    Would be cool if people with more PA could test this build as I lose about 100-200 dps because of it on all other builds posted so far.



    My guess is that this build should scale pretty well with PA and more gear as you have a 5% damage increase buff.

    Any input is welcome

    Edit: put in link for the build
    If you don't use any reaver skills its just not worth it, you can get more +damage from Riftblade (3% per point, so 12% if you put all the points into rb). So i see no real reason to include it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azunia View Post
    2.2 51 Champion / 9 Paragon / 6 Riftblade (Champion Crystal/2H)

    Specc: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0c...rGudz.VL.xz.-5

    Highly flexible specc with quite strong singletarget, as well as the best AoE damage of all the speccs.

    Selfbuffs: Destroyers Bearing, Stormblade, Way of the River

    Makros:

    #show Disruptive Strike
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Disruptive Strike
    cast Frenzied Strike

    #show Power Strike
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Power Strike
    cast Frenzied Strike

    #show Bladefury
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Bladefury
    cast Proper Timing

    #show Fiery burst
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Fiery Burst
    cast Frenzied Strike

    Rotation:

    (starts with one attackpoint)

    Disruptive Strike -> Fiery Burst
    Power Strike -> Power Strike -> Bladefury
    Power Strike -> Power Strike -> Bladefury

    (repeat)

    Similar to 51/13/2 Cornered Beast is a DPS gain and is used with the following rotation when ready:

    Disruptive Strike -> Fiery Burst
    Power Strike -> Power Strike -> Cornered Beast
    Power Strike -> Power Strike -> Bladefury
    Just very briefly tested this build and rotation, good results on ST! For AoE, wouldn't it be better to use Mighty Blow instead of Power Strike? At least on the dummies, the dps went up when doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cithran View Post
    Just very briefly tested this build and rotation, good results on ST! For AoE, wouldn't it be better to use Mighty Blow instead of Power Strike? At least on the dummies, the dps went up when doing that.
    This is not an AoE rotation, its a ST rotation that shows how to include Cornered Beast into the ST rotation.

    In AoE ofc you use Mighty Blow.
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    The 5% damage is additive so along with our extremely high base damage modifier this would scale like crap in raid.. and like someone already mention ur losing 12% total damage increase buy putting those points into reaver.
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    What do you think about using Bloodthirst in the two 51 champ specs?

    Would it be worth it on the off chance that you get the proc from say killing the add on Inquis.?

    Would macro'ing it be worth it?

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    Macroing an ability with a requirement like bloodthirst (or deathblow) will create macrolag so you should NEVER macro them. But I haven't tested the difference between bloodthirst and power strike as dummys seldom tend to die, so feel free to try.
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    Blood thirst hits about as hard as disruptive.
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