1.8 DPS Specs - Miniguides

[shr4n]

sry, found the answer

[Azunia]

Added 51 Riftblade/15 Paragon - if you find any other good speccs feel free to tell me.

Concerning the 21/22/23 Build i will try it as soon as Greater Primal Companion is available on the PTS again.

http://imageshack.us/content_round.p...2rb23champ.png (2628 + 351 (pet)) = (2980)

Quite nice actually but i don't think it really warrents adding it due to mentioned concerns. Maybe i'll add a note about it somewhere.

[Zgragnok]

Just wanted to say THANKS to all the hard work that was done to get these results. I dont have the time needed to dig into it like I want and the information posted here will help immensly. Once again thanks to you all for the work!!

[badrsadiq]

What about Beastmaster 51 / Champion 15 / Rift 0 ?

can you do your tests on that one please and let us know it's advantages and disadvantages.


thanks

[OdinTGE]

So what are people's thoughts on Crit vs. STR stat weights for the various specs?

Obviously something like 51RB/15 Para values crit less than any spec with Slayer's and/or Frenzied but just about every spec is probably going to have some variation.

I suppose I could hit the dummy with some costume weapons while naked then slowly add AP to try to get a handle on how much 1 AP adds to dps in a certain spec then go from there but ugh that doesn't sound too fun.

[badrsadiq]

What about Beastmaster 51 / Champion 15 / Rift 0 ?

can you do your tests on that one please and let us know it's advantages and disadvantages.


thanks

Ok I did some testing & Comparison between 40 champ / 26 BM & 51 BM / 15 champ

For me, they did almost same dps... not big difference. self buffed that is, although I get the feeling 51 BM would do much more dps with raid buffs but that needs testing.


I stand with 30% crit & 1040 AP.

My gear is very low on crit so I think 51 BM worked rly well for me, but this is where I need to see tests from you as you have the best gear items out there so far... a real comparison would be done then between those 2 specs.

[OdinTGE]

Damn edit limits. I meant Crit vs. AP

[Azunia]

Ok I did some testing & Comparison between 40 champ / 26 BM & 51 BM / 15 champ

For me, they did almost same dps... not big difference. self buffed that is, although I get the feeling 51 BM would do much more dps with raid buffs but that needs testing.


I stand with 30% crit & 1040 AP.

My gear is very low on crit so I think 51 BM worked rly well for me, but this is where I need to see tests from you as you have the best gear items out there so far... a real comparison would be done then between those 2 specs.

51 BM / 15 Champ did around 2,7k for me - so 40 Champ is still the way to go. (or the aforementioned 21/22/23)

Also tried 51 BM / 15 Paragon but it only did 2,6k so its even worse.

Concerning Crit vs AP it is my opinion that the softcritcap should still be obtained, but i didn't do much research into the subject so i could be wrong.

[smizbert]

For the (38/22/6) specc you posted this rotation:
Dual Strike -> Rising waterfall -> Frenzied Strike/Shifting Blades
Dual Strike -> Rising waterfall -> Reaping Harvest/Frenzied Strike
Dual Strike -> Rising waterfall -> Strike Like Iron

Dual Strike -> Rising waterfall -> Frenzied Strike/Icy Burst
Dual Strike -> Rising waterfall -> Fiery Burst
Dual Strike -> Rising waterfall -> Frenzied Strike/Icy Burst
Dual Strike -> Rising waterfall -> Strike Like Iron

What is the upper 3 things? Intrinsc didn't post these in his guide about that build. Is it better or what?

[badrsadiq]

51 BM / 15 Champ did around 2,7k for me - so 40 Champ is still the way to go. (or the aforementioned 21/22/23)

Also tried 51 BM / 15 Paragon but it only did 2,6k so its even worse.

Concerning Crit vs AP it is my opinion that the softcritcap should still be obtained, but i didn't do much research into the subject so i could be wrong.

With my gear both 51 BM and 26 did about same dps, but when you really think about it, the 40 champ / 26 BM gives so much utility that will be needed in raids not to mention better AoE. thx for ur guide been very helpful

[Azunia]

For the (38/22/6) specc you posted this rotation:
Dual Strike -> Rising waterfall -> Frenzied Strike/Shifting Blades
Dual Strike -> Rising waterfall -> Reaping Harvest/Frenzied Strike
Dual Strike -> Rising waterfall -> Strike Like Iron

Dual Strike -> Rising waterfall -> Frenzied Strike/Icy Burst
Dual Strike -> Rising waterfall -> Fiery Burst
Dual Strike -> Rising waterfall -> Frenzied Strike/Icy Burst
Dual Strike -> Rising waterfall -> Strike Like Iron

What is the upper 3 things? Intrinsc didn't post these in his guide about that build. Is it better or what?

IMHO Shifting Rotation is still a DPS increase in a raid setting, due to double benefit from crit, could be wrong though.

Concerning 51BM/15Champ Pfalcon had a 2900 DPS parse. Maybe i messed up a few things or had a wrong rotation, will recheck it again.

[intrinsc]

IMHO Shifting Rotation is still a DPS increase in a raid setting, due to double benefit from crit, could be wrong though.

Concerning 51BM/15Champ Pfalcon had a 2900 DPS parse. Maybe i messed up a few things or had a wrong rotation, will recheck it again.

Remember, some people like posting parses they pick and choose because their crit rate was higher than in other parses(crit RNG) so they are skewed.

As far as 38/22/6. I am posting the rotation that is best for me on the dummy. I just can not imagine a rotation on the dummy that I perceive, and have parsed as lower, being higher in raid by a significant amount because of an increased crit rate.

[smizbert]

Remember, some people like posting parses they pick and choose because their crit rate was higher than in other parses(crit RNG) so they are skewed.

As far as 38/22/6. I am posting the rotation that is best for me on the dummy. I just can not imagine a rotation on the dummy that I perceive, and have parsed as lower, being higher in raid by a significant amount because of an increased crit rate.

Okey I'll try both then i guess hehe.

[Azunia]

Remember, some people like posting parses they pick and choose because their crit rate was higher than in other parses(crit RNG) so they are skewed.

As far as 38/22/6. I am posting the rotation that is best for me on the dummy. I just can not imagine a rotation on the dummy that I perceive, and have parsed as lower, being higher in raid by a significant amount because of an increased crit rate.

Still i know i messed up as i had no diversion strike in my rotation.

Imho Shifting scales better in a Raid as a crit gives "double" benefit through the higher Crit itself and the higher Shifting hit. But i haven't parsed raidbuffed in a while so i really can't be sure.

[KiLLBiLLyy]

thnx for this guides are awesome for the warrior community )

i want to ask the 4 PC set bonus you are referring is the raid tier 1 crystal or the raid tier 2 crystal ?

i have the 4 set bonus from tier1 raid and i want to ask if i am gonna use the BM strike of the power strike in the rotation (i am referring to the 2h specs that have BM Role/BM crystal )

the tier1 synergy gives that bonus to fierce strike but no the bleed bonus

thnx in advance