1.8 DPS Specs - Miniguides

[Azunia]

Hi. Firstly thanks for this thread, helped me out a lot.

I am a little confused on a couple things. I'm not very well geared (1059 AP / 752 Crit, no crystal)

I have changed the macros as you suggested to account for the lack of crystal

I noticed that I had higher dps in the 2.2 spec compared to the 2.1 spec, ST on target dummy self buffed.

Then looking at the tooltip I noticed the burst finishers don't hit as hard as TS/PB so I replaced the burst macro in 2.1 with TS/PB and my DPS between 2.2 and 2.1 was now about the same

I'm obviously missing something here but I dont know what, the burst finishers just dont seem to hit as hard.

Will the raid buffs scale the burst finishers that much higher that they come out on top in a raid environment only or will the gap between 2.1 and 2.2 increase as my gear gets better or I get my hands on the BM crystal?

Thanks

Without the bm crystal the specc's wont show much of a difference singletargetwise anyway. But you should learn 51/13/2 as the gap will increase.

So to clarify somthing in the 51/9/6 spec titans strike hits harder that BF in a raid setting and should only be used in raids??

What crowley said.

[Darkdawn]

i'm having trouble in the 51/13/2 spec with Earth Burst not being up when i come back to it in the rotation.

anyone else having this issue, if so what are you using to compensate, if not any ideas why i'm getting this?

[Azunia]

i'm having trouble in the 51/13/2 spec with Earth Burst not being up when i come back to it in the rotation.

anyone else having this issue, if so what are you using to compensate, if not any ideas why i'm getting this?

Just use Icy Burst instead. Thats what the EB/IB macro is for.

I changed Earth/Icy Burst to Earth OR Icy Burst in the rotation part for clarification.

[Darkdawn]

ok kool thatas what i had been doing just wanted to make sure it was the way to go.

thanks and awsome guide

[Cithran]

Just switched from 51/9/6 to 51/13/2. Very little experience so far, but with the 51/13/2 build and bard buff (str/dex) not up, I find I'm loosing dps compared to the 51/9/6. Probably due to the loss of the Focus of Strength buff from the Paragon soul. Anyone else noticed this? Will try a strength scroll next time.

[Azunia]

Just switched from 51/9/6 to 51/13/2. Very little experience so far, but with the 51/13/2 build and bard buff (str/dex) not up, I find I'm loosing dps compared to the 51/9/6. Probably due to the loss of the Focus of Strength buff from the Paragon soul. Anyone else noticed this? Will try a strength scroll next time.

For me 51/13/2 parses higher even w/o Focus of Strength.

[Faydo]

For me 51/13/2 parses higher even w/o Focus of Strength.

hey azune have you tried DWing on ST based fights i.e ituziel and how it does vs 2h?

[Azunia]

hey azune have you tried DWing on ST based fights i.e ituziel and how it does vs 2h?

I have tried it once at Ituziel (44/22) and got around 4,1k DPS. But my DW weapons are worse than my two handed ones so its not really a fair comparison. A member from the other guild in our current raidalliance also claims to have done 4,5k with DW, but i haven't seen him at Ituziel yet. I think its still valid to say that you should play what fits your playstyle and/or your weapons.

[mistacrowley420]

Just switched from 51/9/6 to 51/13/2. Very little experience so far, but with the 51/13/2 build and bard buff (str/dex) not up, I find I'm loosing dps compared to the 51/9/6. Probably due to the loss of the Focus of Strength buff from the Paragon soul. Anyone else noticed this? Will try a strength scroll next time.

9/6 generally has a higher crit rate overall on a standard dummy parse because of 3% crit from way of the river. That might have something to do with your results, 13/2 wins in raid ST by a good margin.

[Shield Happens]

9/6 generally has a higher crit rate overall on a standard dummy parse because of 3% crit from way of the river. That might have something to do with your results, 13/2 wins in raid ST by a good margin.

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[Methadras]

I'm trying to understand something in the 51/13/2 rotation. Is it just:

Disruptive Strike -> Tearing Slash
Power Strike -> Power Strike -> Earth OR Icy burst (only press the macro ONCE!)
Power Strike -> Power Strike -> Fiery Burst
Power Strike -> Power Strike -> Earth OR Icy burst (only press the macro ONCE!)

rinse and repeat or is it the above plus:

Disruptive Strike -> Tearing Slash
Power Strike -> Power Strike -> Cornered Beast
Power Strike -> Power Strike -> Fiery Burst

The explanation on the first page isn't quite clear. Also, I have the 4 piece champ crystal. Also, it appears that Titan Strike is a dps upgrade over Blade Fury. Is that really true given that BF with the champ crystal can be used more often or is it just that its dps output scales differently than Titan's Strike?

Also, is the AOE the same as in 51/9/6 with 3x Mighty Blow + Cornered Beast, 3x MB + Blade Fury or Titan's Strike?

[Azunia]

I'm trying to understand something in the 51/13/2 rotation. Is it just:

Disruptive Strike -> Tearing Slash
Power Strike -> Power Strike -> Earth OR Icy burst (only press the macro ONCE!)
Power Strike -> Power Strike -> Fiery Burst
Power Strike -> Power Strike -> Earth OR Icy burst (only press the macro ONCE!)

rinse and repeat or is it the above plus:

Disruptive Strike -> Tearing Slash
Power Strike -> Power Strike -> Cornered Beast
Power Strike -> Power Strike -> Fiery Burst

The explanation on the first page isn't quite clear. Also, I have the 4 piece champ crystal. Also, it appears that Titan Strike is a dps upgrade over Blade Fury. Is that really true given that BF with the champ crystal can be used more often or is it just that its dps output scales differently than Titan's Strike?

Also, is the AOE the same as in 51/9/6 with 3x Mighty Blow + Cornered Beast, 3x MB + Blade Fury or Titan's Strike?

If Cornered Beast is ready you use the lower rotation, else the upper one. In AoE Titans Strike is always a DPS loss and its not used in ST in this spec, so i don't quite understand the question.

Concerning aoe, yes it is the same rotation.

[Faydo]

I've found out that the more ID gear you get the better BF will trump over titan's strike ST wise.
On laethys i'm sitting at 1640 AP / 1060 crit and my BF crits for 10600 during flaring power while titan's strike is only 9600 on the same situation and it has been critting for less than BF even without flaring power.

My conclusion is that Titan's strike is only a DPS loss vs bladefury with more ID gear (more AP)

[Bayne420]

I have been using disruptive strike after every cornered beast in my AOE rotations

So the rotation works out like this:
Cornered Beast, Disruptive Strike, Bladefury...
Then go to the standard: Mighty Blow x3, Bladefury till Cornered beast is off CD

So it works out to be one global CD reduction, but gives a great boost at the beginning of pulls

I haven't read this whole thread so I apologize if someone has already pointed this out

[Kedolan]

I have a question: I've been using the 51/9/6 champ spec up until now for dps, but I wanted to try out the 51/13/2 to see if I could wring a little more dps out of myself for ituziel (still working towards our first kill). I don't always nail the rotation 100% since it's still new to me and I've only used it a handful of times against a dummy, but I seem to be doing a full 100-150 more ST using 51/9/6.

Should I expect to see more damage on a dummy, and 51/13/2 scales better in a raid, or am I doing something wrong (or are the slip here and there really costing me that much dps)? I currently have 1251 AP and 930 crit unbuffed, using a T2 raid epic 2h weapon, without a GI trinket, but with both champ and BM crystals.