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    Quote Originally Posted by Azunia View Post
    You get Fiery Burst at 6 points. Surging is the only useful thing there ;D
    Oh thats right, they changed it for 1.8. totally forgot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azunia View Post
    You get Fiery Burst at 6 points. Surging is the only useful thing there
    Can you go 51CH/ 10Para/ 5RB and not use Fiery Burst at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelwind View Post
    Can you go 51CH/ 10Para/ 5RB and not use Fiery Burst at all?
    There's a spec floating around using that distro and it's monster AOE and really good ST, too. It uses BF, CB for ST finishers and it does quite well.

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    I don't think it changes much but the rotation seems to flow smoother with FB in it.

    DS -> FB -> FS -> FS -> BF -> FS -> FS -> BF =^ 10,5 secs

    DS -> BF -> FS -> FS -> BF -> FS -> FS -> BF =^ 12 secs

    The FB one can take more advantage of the 10 sec CD of Disruptive.

    The difference in AoE damage is neglectable imho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azunia View Post
    I don't think it changes much but the rotation seems to flow smoother with FB in it.

    DS -> FB -> FS -> FS -> BF -> FS -> FS -> BF =^ 10,5 secs

    DS -> BF -> FS -> FS -> BF -> FS -> FS -> BF =^ 12 secs

    The FB one can take more advantage of the 10 sec CD of Disruptive.

    The difference in AoE damage is neglectable imho.
    IMO I don't think it's as negligible as the difference between 13/2 and 9/6 in ST, which comes to, with normal crit RNG, between 50-60dps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intrinsc View Post
    IMO I don't think it's as negligible as the difference between 13/2 and 9/6 in ST, which comes to, with normal crit RNG, between 50-60dps.
    The difference is ((10*3)-(9*2,4)-3)=5,4% more damage vs Fiery Burst. I cant imagine the difference being very high but i can always make a parse sample for it.
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    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/571/105champ.png/

    Was parsing for 3k most of the time, clipped the parse at a bad moment. So not that much difference.

    Btw i had to add Punishing Blow after Disruptive due to the 4s BF cooldown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azunia View Post
    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/571/105champ.png/

    Was parsing for 3k most of the time, clipped the parse at a bad moment. So not that much difference.

    Btw i had to add Punishing Blow after Disruptive due to the 4s BF cooldown.
    Interesting. So compared to the 9/6 build the difference for single target is very negligible.
    It almost seems like a simpler rotation as well? Either way, full raid buff scaling would ultimately determine the differences.

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    Dude ive just been running 51 para 12 pally and 3 champ and i love it lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thedarkside View Post
    Dude ive just been running 51 para 12 pally and 3 champ and i love it lol
    I seriously have no clue what you are talking about, or what that spec should accomplish.
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    I was doing the 38 paragon 22 champ 6 riftblade

    Spam

    cast rising waterfall
    cast dual strike

    finisher

    cast strike like iron
    cast icy burst
    cast fiery burst
    cast frenzied strike

    Wearing 2 swords, 46.4dps, maxed sword mastery, cake, 30str glyphs, heroic powersurge, and tablet. I was doing 2300dps. Im not full t2 filled yet either and no Golem Inductor yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azunia View Post
    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/571/105champ.png/

    Was parsing for 3k most of the time, clipped the parse at a bad moment. So not that much difference.

    Btw i had to add Punishing Blow after Disruptive due to the 4s BF cooldown.
    Pretty sure Titan's Strike hit's harder then Punishing Blow btw, I personally found the 51champ-10para-5RB to be the best aoe spec we've got, and the highest parsing ST pure physical build, there's a fair few better ST options though, still not a bad spec, I'll definitely have it as one of my roles if things stay the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachariah View Post
    I was doing the 38 paragon 22 champ 6 riftblade

    Spam

    cast rising waterfall
    cast dual strike

    finisher

    cast strike like iron
    cast icy burst
    cast fiery burst
    cast frenzied strike

    Wearing 2 swords, 46.4dps, maxed sword mastery, cake, 30str glyphs, heroic powersurge, and tablet. I was doing 2300dps. Im not full t2 filled yet either and no Golem Inductor yet

    Im 2 pieces away from full relic HK gear. 1248AP 1124PC
    Shouldn't put Rising Waterfall in a macro like that >_>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachariah View Post
    I was doing the 38 paragon 22 champ 6 riftblade

    Spam

    cast rising waterfall
    cast dual strike

    finisher

    cast strike like iron
    cast icy burst
    cast fiery burst
    cast frenzied strike

    Wearing 2 swords, 46.4dps, maxed sword mastery, cake, 30str glyphs, heroic powersurge, and tablet. I was doing 2300dps. Im not full t2 filled yet either and no Golem Inductor yet

    Im 2 pieces away from full relic HK gear. 1248AP 1124PC

    Your first macro will create macrolag and lower your dps. Try to macro it like described in my guide and you will surely see a dps increase. And btw Weaponstones should still be better than 30 str glyphs.

    @Zaiana Yes, but there is no dummy where titan strike doesn't hit another, so i didnt use it for better comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azunia View Post
    Your first macro will create macrolag and lower your dps. Try to macro it like described in my guide and you will surely see a dps increase. And btw Weaponstones should still be better than 30 str glyphs.

    @Zaiana Yes, but there is no dummy where titan strike doesn't hit another, so i didnt use it for better comparison.
    If you stand as close to the healing dummy as you can but still be in melee range of the nearest target dummy, your Titan's Srike won't hit anything other then your target.
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