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    also i would some1 to explain how way of the wind works and why its better than river or mountain.
    way of river could be v helpful on our way to stacking AP and way of the mountain..well its good. Is way of the wind so much helpful than the others? its a like x numbers of ticks in total 10 seconds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by seppy View Post
    also i would some1 to explain how way of the wind works and why its better than river or mountain.
    way of river could be v helpful on our way to stacking AP and way of the mountain..well its good. Is way of the wind so much helpful than the others? its a like x numbers of ticks in total 10 seconds?
    thanx

    Not at home to look but i believe way of the wind grants a % damage additional to attacks that requires 2 weapons, while mountain is just for follow ups that requires 2 weapons, and river is just flat bonus to crit.

    wind goes with all attacks that requires 2 weapons, so Dual strike/Path of the raptor/path of the hurricane/reaping harvest/tempest. possibly RW but not sure since it doesn't require DW

    mountain affects only the followups so it excludes dual strike. which is your second hardest hitting damage skill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonRage View Post
    Not at home to look but i believe way of the wind grants a % damage additional to attacks that requires 2 weapons, while mountain is just for follow ups that requires 2 weapons, and river is just flat bonus to crit.

    wind goes with all attacks that requires 2 weapons, so Dual strike/Path of the raptor/path of the hurricane/reaping harvest/tempest. possibly RW but not sure since it doesn't require DW

    mountain affects only the followups so it excludes dual strike. which is your second hardest hitting damage skill.
    Way of the wind causes abilities that require 2 weaons to deal 1/4 of your AP.
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    you dont play to win you play to pocket heal a monster warrior that likes bashing in peoples heads 20-30x every game. even if your team loses points wise and wreck goes 20 or 30-0 it is still a win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mistacrowley420 View Post
    Way of the wind causes abilities that require 2 weaons to deal 1/4 of your AP.
    i knew it had something to do with attacks that require dual weilding.


    and LOL at your Carlton avatar....
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    got 3.5k on ituziel yesterday
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    Quote Originally Posted by totinhas View Post
    got 3.5k on ituziel yesterday
    That's very good. Long live DW!!

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    Thought i'd give this build some credit even though i am a big fan of 2h. Good write up intrinsc thanks for sharing it with the warrior community. Here are some raid parses from our HK off night, figured with all the self buffed parses if anybody wanted to see how it scales in raid this might help.

    Self buffed stats+ DW set up-http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...-04_215506.jpg

    Murdantix-http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/.../RIFT/DW-M.png

    Vlad w/out cutting distraction-http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/.../RIFT/DW-V.png

    Sicaron w/1 contract-http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/.../RIFT/DW-S.png

    I think 4800 would have been possible on sicaron had I not got a contract, all in all i'm impressed by the numbers with this build. If you have questions feel free to ask.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ehxon View Post
    you dont play to win you play to pocket heal a monster warrior that likes bashing in peoples heads 20-30x every game. even if your team loses points wise and wreck goes 20 or 30-0 it is still a win.
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    Stupid edit timer. The above is supposed to be unbuffed not self buffed, didn't have the str buff up from paragon.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ehxon View Post
    you dont play to win you play to pocket heal a monster warrior that likes bashing in peoples heads 20-30x every game. even if your team loses points wise and wreck goes 20 or 30-0 it is still a win.
    Wreckoning

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    You have pendant of the shark. I hate you. Very nice numbers, too.

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    I don't understand how you guys are performing more than 3k+ ST

    even on a dummy i only hit 2.3k....


    with Vials, oilstone, elder tablet and Farclan AP FOOD

    38/22/6
    self buffs
    AP = 1272
    PCRIT = 964

    Time: 03:17 Ally DPS: 2391 Shivass :2391

    ACT:- 2367

    is my crit too low? I've got fang of akylios and dolin's blade, and all relic gear (expect pants and chest peice)

    I've used both rotations from Mini-guide as well as intrinsics... so... MEH! im deffo doing sumthing WRONG!!
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    With the new 1h crafted Axe (52,5 DPS)

    Self buffed stats: 1286 AP, 1076 Crit I was just using the ingame addon parser both done for 5 mins and 1 second (sorry no screenshots)

    Dummy:
    No SB: 2963

    With SB: 2972
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    So i keep hearing SB/RH > IB/FB/IB and IB/FB/IB > SB/RH is there a point in AP/crit wheres theres a clear winner between these 2 rotations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabtr View Post
    So i keep hearing SB/RH > IB/FB/IB and IB/FB/IB > SB/RH is there a point in AP/crit wheres theres a clear winner between these 2 rotations?
    As what i can see if intrinsc and angryweasel is right.

    Shifting blades is better with good 1-handers.
    The other rotation is better if you dont have relic from akylios and up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragg3h View Post
    I don't understand how you guys are performing more than 3k+ ST

    even on a dummy i only hit 2.3k....


    with Vials, oilstone, elder tablet and Farclan AP FOOD

    38/22/6
    self buffs
    AP = 1272
    PCRIT = 964

    Time: 03:17 Ally DPS: 2391 Shivass :2391

    ACT:- 2367

    is my crit too low? I've got fang of akylios and dolin's blade, and all relic gear (expect pants and chest peice)

    I've used both rotations from Mini-guide as well as intrinsics... so... MEH! im deffo doing sumthing WRONG!!
    Check the previous page....Someone else was also way lower than they should have been and was "missing" globals and it looks like you have the same issue. 197s parse / 1.6 gcd + latency = 123. You have 117 globals "used". Your RW has pretty low crit RNG there too, only 30% which hurts.

    I'd also recommend not doing SB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharogy View Post
    For a SB Rotation to come out ahead the following must be true:

    0.75*(DS+RW)+1.75*RH > DS+RW+2*ICY+FB

    Simplify Yields:

    1.75 RH > 0.25 (DS+RW)+2*ICY+FB

    However this is never true because:

    #1, 0.25*(DS+RW)+ FB = RH (Roughly)
    #2, 2* ICY > 0.75*RH (Always)
    #3, Using SB gives less attack that can proc golem inductor.

    Feel free to check this numbers in ur raid parse.

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    TL : DR, SB is Bad, Ur D0ing it Wr0ng.
    So .. I think it's pretty close btw these 2 rotations atm. Dunno what is the main factor, AP or wpn dps range ?
    Last edited by Leetina; 05-06-2012 at 03:26 PM.

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