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    Default Storm Prophet (Storm/Pyro 44/22 ST Custom build). A different approach in t1 DPSing.

    I grew sick of all the pyrolocks running around with no innovation or personal taste in their specs
    I have a great respect for all these players, yet no respect for the build.
    I have been tuning this spec for almost 2 weeks now and it keeps working like a charm.
    Of course, not top notch, but I find it a great alternative.
    Let's get to it.

    The Spec:

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0z....AhqAMAhzrz.-7

    It is focused around buffing Lightning Burst, THE ST spell for us, Stormcallers.
    I prefer Ride the Wind over Static Barrier or Storm Guard due to the number of mobility in t1 and early t2 (where this spec is refering to) raiding.
    I find Flicker a necessary addition, because it can be a life-saviour so many times. Plus, it's cool to run in front of everyone ;p
    Feel free to play around with the Fire Storm and Burning Bonds points.

    The Rotation:

    It is practically very simple.
    Apply 3 stacks of electrified (Raging Storm, Electrocute, Thunderbolt), Flame Bolt, Ice Shear, Icicle (IF procced), Lightning Burst.
    Use Static Flux/Internalize Charge at max Charge only. The only difference is that Internalize Charge effects Flame Bolt too, whereas Static Flux doesn't.

    Always remember the priority order:
    Raging Storm > Electrocute > Thunderbolt x3.

    In case of movement (due to a boss mechanic or something),
    DON'T cast Lighning Burst. Spam Cloudburst instead.
    Yes, it is a heavy DPS loss, yet I think you prefer to lose 300DPS rather than 10k HP per se.

    ATTENTION:

    1. HOTKEY Static Flux/Internalize Charge. NEVER forget to open it when you have 95-110 charge.

    2. Use Flame Bolt as soon as it comes off CD. The buff lasts 10sec and FB has an 8sec CD and you need it to have 100% uptime.

    3. Let Raging Storm and Electrocute run their full duration. They both apply 3 stacks of Eelectrified but the last one is applied right when the channeling stops.
    If you interrupt it even 0.1sec before it ends you end up with 2 stacks of Electrified and a HUGE DPS loss.

    4. For AoE moments (when Stormcaller shines) follow the cookie-cutter rotation.
    Hailstorm, Arctic Blast, Raging Storm, (Lightning Field -> Forked lightning) x-as-much-as-you-want.

    The Macro(s):

    I only use one macro, to combine my Electrified builders.
    It saves me one hotkey but really, this spec doesn't need it so badly. It just makes your fingers less strechy.

    Code:
    #show raging storm
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast raging storm
    cast electrocute
    The first time you cast it, it channels Raging Storm.
    The 2nd time it channels Electrocute.
    The icon will have the CD of raging storm, so use it again as soon as it comes up then wait for Electrocute to come up.
    I suggest that you have Electrocute in another key binded, far away from your immediate finger reach, just so you can watch its CD.

    PROS:

    This spec is unique. It fully utilizes the thunder and ice aspects of our class with a simple and fun way.
    It has a great AoE potential like all Stormcaller specs.
    You control the power of the skies. Do you really need more?

    CONS:

    It has no chance in beating pyrolocks, defilemancers and 51-ers pyros or locks, unfortunately. Stormcaller was made to be an AoE spec and while it shines in its purpose,
    what we are trying to do here is make it a viable ST spec.
    Problems with high-mobile fights. Yes, CB is a nice spell since you can spam but it's nowhere close to LB.



    Concluding, I'm not claiming to have mastered this spec, our class or RIFT itself in any way possible (maybe opening air rifts).

    Have fun, enjoy this spec, freeze enemies with your storming wrath and NEVER forget that this spec is not supposed to be competitive in high-end raiding
    rather than fun and innovative in experts, t1 and any outgeared content.

    Spaghetti is THE best food of all times.
    Peace.
    Sagjer.
    Last edited by Sagjer; 08-19-2012 at 06:06 AM.
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    Lgw has a really great guide for 36/30 SC/Pyro in the guides section which has a number of advantages over your spec while still playing quite similarly.

    It's a great combo for experts as well as fights like Oracle, Herald and Zilas.

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    I noticed it mate
    It IS a great guide indeed and I was following that spec for a long time,
    but it was feeling a bit too pyro-ish.
    Thats why I decided to take it one step forward for the storm-lovers such as meself

    No disrespect to the aforementioned guide of course. Its one great piece of advice.
    But I do think, our 'target groups' are different, dont you?
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    Also in love with stormcaller here, i really miss Building storm. I'll play around with this, but I just can't see it beating the 36/30 even in st. I suspect you underestimate 1sec cloudbursts.

    I adjusted your points as well, there's just no need for firestorm or improved combustion. I'd suggest this spec will achieve what you wanted a bit more. Storm guard is pretty handy in moments of aoe damage that you can predict, 15% is still a decent dmg reduction and if you're close enough, free electrified stacks!

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0z....VGqAMAhkrz.-7

    Fwiw, I don't understand how 36/30 feels any more or less pyro-ish than this. The only pyro spell you cast in either spec is flame bolt.

    4. For AoE moments (when Stormcaller shines) follow the cookie-cutter rotation.
    Hailstorm, Arctic Blast, Raging Storm, (Lightning Field -> Forked lightning) x-as-much-as-you-want.
    Just for reference, cast either Hailstorm or Arctic Blast (rotate between them), casting them both is just wasting hypothermia. Raging Storm has no place in an AOE rotation. Lightning Field is your electrify builder. Flame Bolt is still worth casting though.
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    improved combustion waas there by mistake in the url indeed.
    it was meant for fiery resolve. thank you for pointing that out.
    as for fire storm, nothing is much better so i just put it there as a matter of taste.
    I like having the most spells possible.

    concerning storm guard, why would you want to be close enough? xD
    again a matter of taste

    about the 36/30 spec, spamming spells and bursting away is a pyro way. I want the spec to be slow. to FEEL like a storm, not like im-casting-water-spels-in-a-pyro-way. you get my point?
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    Why not have the 1sec GCD witch would bust your ST damage and not lose any AE damage?

    Something like this:
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0z....VGqA0Ahzrz.-7
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanMan View Post
    Why not have the 1sec GCD witch would bust your ST damage and not lose any AE damage?

    Something like this:
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0z....VGqA0Ahzrz.-7
    Or the version with Improved Glyphs of Power, which is better.
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    can't delete so will repost..
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrinnz View Post
    Or the version with Improved Glyphs of Power, which is better.
    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanMan View Post
    Why not have the 1sec GCD witch would bust your ST damage and not lose any AE damage?

    Something like this:
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0z....VGqA0Ahzrz.-7
    Because you lose "Lightning Burst" (which if done correctly, crits for 12-15k), and your Brez Utility (which comes in handy when the raid is going south, and you just need 1 healer up to finish off the fight but noone has any more Brezzes).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagjer View Post
    I grew sick of all the pyrolocks running around with no innovation or personal taste in their specs
    I have a great respect for all these players, yet no respect for the build.
    I have been tuning this spec for almost 2 weeks now and it keeps working like a charm.
    Of course, not top notch, but I find it a great alternative.
    Let's get to it.

    The Spec:

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0z....AhqAMAhzrz.-7

    It is focused around buffing Lightning Burst, THE ST spell for us, Stormcallers.
    I prefer Ride the Wind over Static Barrier or Storm Guard due to the number of mobility in t1 and early t2 (where this spec is refering to) raiding.
    I find Flicker a necessary addition, because it can be a life-saviour so many times. Plus, it's cool to run in front of everyone ;p
    Feel free to play around with the Fire Storm and Burning Bonds points.

    The Rotation:

    It is practically very simple.
    Apply 3 stacks of electrified (Raging Storm, Electrocute, Thunderbolt), Flame Bolt, Ice Shear, Icicle (IF procced), Lightning Burst.
    Use Static Flux/Internalize Charge at max Charge only. The only difference is that Internalize Charge effects Flame Bolt too, whereas Static Flux doesn't.

    Always remember the priority order:
    Raging Storm > Electrocute > Thunderbolt x3.

    In case of movement (due to a boss mechanic or something),
    DON'T cast Lighning Burst. Spam Cloudburst instead.
    Yes, it is a heavy DPS loss, yet I think you prefer to lose 300DPS rather than 10k HP per se.

    ATTENTION:

    1. HOTKEY Static Flux/Internalize Charge. NEVER forget to open it when you have 95-110 charge.

    2. Use Flame Bolt as soon as it comes off CD. The buff lasts 10sec and FB has an 8sec CD and you need it to have 100% uptime.

    3. Let Raging Storm and Electrocute run their full duration. They both apply 3 stacks of Eelectrified but the last one is applied right when the channeling stops.
    If you interrupt it even 0.1sec before it ends you end up with 2 stacks of Electrified and a HUGE DPS loss.

    4. For AoE moments (when Stormcaller shines) follow the cookie-cutter rotation.
    Hailstorm, Arctic Blast, Raging Storm, (Lightning Field -> Forked lightning) x-as-much-as-you-want.

    The Macro(s):

    I only use one macro, to combine my Electrified builders.
    It saves me one hotkey but really, this spec doesn't need it so badly. It just makes your fingers less strechy.

    Code:
    #show raging storm
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast raging storm
    cast electrocute
    The first time you cast it, it channels Raging Storm.
    The 2nd time it channels Electrocute.
    The icon will have the CD of raging storm, so use it again as soon as it comes up then wait for Electrocute to come up.
    I suggest that you have Electrocute in another key binded, far away from your immediate finger reach, just so you can watch its CD.

    PROS:

    This spec is unique. It fully utilizes the thunder and ice aspects of our class with a simple and fun way.
    It has a great AoE potential like all Stormcaller specs.
    You control the power of the skies. Do you really need more?

    CONS:

    It has no chance in beating pyrolocks, defilemancers and 51-ers pyros or locks, unfortunately. Stormcaller was made to be an AoE spec and while it shines in its purpose,
    what we are trying to do here is make it a viable ST spec.
    Problems with high-mobile fights. Yes, CB is a nice spell since you can spam but it's nowhere close to LB.



    Concluding, I'm not claiming to have mastered this spec, our class or RIFT itself in any way possible (maybe opening air rifts).

    Have fun, enjoy this spec, freeze enemies with your storming wrath and NEVER forget that this spec is not supposed to be competitive in high-end raiding
    rather than fun and innovative in experts, t1 and any outgeared content.

    Spaghetti is THE best food of all times.
    Peace.
    Sagjer.

    I would carry specs like this if I had more than 6 slots. I too am sick of pyrolock.
    Last edited by BehemothDog; 09-17-2012 at 12:22 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by behemothdog View Post
    i too am sick of pyrolock.
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    Just not really looking great at all here...wait for 1.11 and hope Stormcaller is viable.

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    At higher sp levels, and correct me if I'm wrong, Lightning Field spam beats out Cloudburst spam in ST rotation even with 4pc SC crystal. Samething with forked lightning vs. thunderbolt in ST rotation. I switched to back to LF spam at the beginning of the summer when I realized how much of a PITA cloudburst's travel time is.

    I hope they fix SC scaling in the expansion XD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayakov View Post
    At higher sp levels, and correct me if I'm wrong, Lightning Field spam beats out Cloudburst spam in ST rotation even with 4pc SC crystal. Samething with forked lightning vs. thunderbolt in ST rotation. I switched to back to LF spam at the beginning of the summer when I realized how much of a PITA cloudburst's travel time is.

    I hope they fix SC scaling in the expansion XD.
    This is true, usually start with CB and mix in some LF until it surpasses than continue using LF ( usually waiting on AMoP stacks / crystal proc )

    and yeah travel time on CB sucks, whenever something is about to die usually switch to LF regardless if its hitting harder or not..

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