Ahov's Guide to Senticar

[Rallock]

Having BoJ first is so that you will always use it when stationary, thus saving your instacasts for movement phases (it's also your best spell dps-wise). I'm not a great fan of defaulting to BoJ myself, but I definitely understand why someone would want to.

The macro you posted seems a bit odd. Might I suggest the following instead:

#show Sanction Heretic
suppress...
cast Sanction Heretic (used first for fast convictions and to apply the dot)
cast Bolt of Radiance
cast Life's Vengeance
cast Sovereignty (the reason why I put Sov last is that this rotation will make it so you have a new instant cast (BoR) available almost right after you cast this one)
cast Bolt of Judgement
cast Strike of Judgement (don't put SoJ above BoJ or you will default to it when close to mobs - SoJ is only meant as a last resort, when being on the move and happening to be in melee range)
cast Banish
cast Vex

(I use this rotation mainly because my playstyle is a bit ADD; I like to run and jump even if I don't have to.^^)

BoJ is better DPS even though it's a 2.0 cast time?

The reason I put Strike of Judgment before Bolt of Judgment is because of the faster Conviction building using something that is just on GCD as opposed to 2.0 second cast. That and you don't have to stand 100% still while it's casting.

As for the others. I put all the instant cast spells first because it seems to be the quickest route to Convictions. Like mentioned...if I'm in Senticar I'm not there for DPS. I'd use Inquisicar for that.

Thanks for the feedback though. I never did all the timings so I didn't take into consideration the SH/BoR/Lifes Vengeance/Sov timings.

[Raynedrops]

BoJ is better DPS even though it's a 2.0 cast time?

Not if you put 5 points into Castigation.

The reason I put Strike of Judgment before Bolt of Judgment is because of the faster Conviction building using something that is just on GCD as opposed to 2.0 second cast. That and you don't have to stand 100% still while it's casting.

True, although it is not advisable to use melee range for conviction building in the first place.

As for the others. I put all the instant cast spells first because it seems to be the quickest route to Convictions. Like mentioned...if I'm in Senticar I'm not there for DPS. I'd use Inquisicar for that.

I do that as well. But you can always optimize the order in which they're cast.

Thanks for the feedback though. I never did all the timings so I didn't take into consideration the SH/BoR/Lifes Vengeance/Sov timings.

I didn't either, until someone pointed it out to me. It usually works that way.

[Valavus]

Great guide, Ahov. One thing I do with this spec when I heal dungeons or solo heal 10mans is that I have a cast @focus Healing Invocation macro so I can throw an HI at the tank if he needs it while keeping targets targeted for conviction building. Overall, this is my favorite 10man and 5man healing spec. It also does really well in solo healing some 20man fights.

There is a setting in Combat that let's you cast at your target's target. This let's you target the tank, and spam the conviction macro at whatever the tank is targeting while bombing heals on the tank. This feature is great on Alky, where you can ask all the ranged to target through one assigned person for stingers/lashers.

[Ahov]

Can we assume this is just a list of spells you would use in your macro as opposed to the actual rotation?

Isn't the general rule to put cooldown abilities first and then the rest? Mainly curious why BoJ would be first in your list and strike of judgment as second. I don't want to turn this into a big macro debate thread but was just curious as to your lineup.

I believe my macro is more along this line (first 3 can be any order really I just usually put longer cooldown abilities first) :

The macro is set up the way it is to allow for maximum dps while standing still, and without wasting your instant-cast abilities for when you need to move. If you need the convictions a bit faster, you can always start running around (which I do a lot in Senticar). For any serious encounter (particularly while using just a couple of healers) you don't want to waste your skills.

[Ahov]

Having BoJ first is so that you will always use it when stationary, thus saving your instacasts for movement phases (it's also your best spell dps-wise). I'm not a great fan of defaulting to BoJ myself, but I definitely understand why someone would want to.

The macro you posted seems a bit odd. Might I suggest the following instead:

#show Sanction Heretic
suppress...
cast Sanction Heretic (used first for fast convictions and to apply the dot)
cast Bolt of Radiance
cast Life's Vengeance
cast Sovereignty (the reason why I put Sov last is that this rotation will make it so you have a new instant cast (BoR) available almost right after you cast this one)
cast Bolt of Judgement
cast Strike of Judgement (don't put SoJ above BoJ or you will default to it when close to mobs - SoJ is only meant as a last resort, when being on the move and happening to be in melee range)
cast Banish
cast Vex

(I use this rotation mainly because my playstyle is a bit ADD; I like to run and jump even if I don't have to.^^)

If your playstyle is "jumping around" anyways, you can still use the macros I posted. It will default to your instant casts while you are moving, but keep them available while you are sitting still.

There is no reason whatsoever to have your instant casts at the top. If DPS is a concern in Sanction Heretic, that's fine, but I'd still keep it third in your macro behind Bolt of Judgment and Strike of Judgment. I keep SoJ next in line because, again, it won't waste your instant spells if you are in melee range.

[Jinjah]

Two battle rezzes? That's so 2011.

Brace yourselves, progress raids are coming.

[usman]

The macro you posted seems a bit odd. Might I suggest the following instead:

#show Sanction Heretic
suppress...
cast Sanction Heretic (used first for fast convictions and to apply the dot)
cast Bolt of Radiance
cast Life's Vengeance
cast Sovereignty (the reason why I put Sov last is that this rotation will make it so you have a new instant cast (BoR) available almost right after you cast this one)
cast Bolt of Judgement
cast Strike of Judgement (don't put SoJ above BoJ or you will default to it when close to mobs - SoJ is only meant as a last resort, when being on the move and happening to be in melee range)
cast Banish
cast Vex

This macro is slightly broken, you need to put Life's Vengenace above Bolt of radiance due to the ICD on conviction building.

LV is insta with no travel time, whilst BoR has a travel time to the mob. If you cast BoR > LV they will land at roughly the same time on the mob and you'll only get 1 or 2 convictions. Whereas if you cast LV > BoR, they will land sufficently seperated to give a full 2 or 4 conviction.

I use a macro almost identical to Ahov's but i put SH at the top, simply because its a DPS gain, and currantly in this game there is no encounter that I cannot heal with the 32/22/12 inq spec, using inq crystal and mostly healing with only reparation/salvation/mandate and the occasional DoL/insta HI. So might as well make a bit more DPS while doing it.

The hardest I have to work would be solo healing on Beruhast, but for the sake of that one single fight its no biggie to switch in either the justicar or sentinel crystal as required.

[Raynedrops]

This macro is slightly broken, you need to put Life's Vengenace above Bolt of radiance due to the ICD on conviction building.

You are absolutely right. I actually did not know this up until last night. Gonna adjust my macro accordingly, thanks!

[Raynedrops]

If your playstyle is "jumping around" anyways, you can still use the macros I posted. It will default to your instant casts while you are moving, but keep them available while you are sitting still.

There is no reason whatsoever to have your instant casts at the top. If DPS is a concern in Sanction Heretic, that's fine, but I'd still keep it third in your macro behind Bolt of Judgment and Strike of Judgment. I keep SoJ next in line because, again, it won't waste your instant spells if you are in melee range.

For some reason I did not like having BoJ at the top last time I tried, but I suppose things change, and I could always give your suggestion another try.

[Merridwyn]

I rolled a senticar sometime ago for Estrode and picked the 2 rezzes spec as we were progressing at the time. However I found it rly buggy, and my second rez never worked - assumed they shared a cooldown - so I respecced.

Going into ID, I'd love those 2 rezzes back and assume (given that no-one pointed out this problem) that they don't share a cooldown. In which case, why don't they work? Help Plox?

[Ahov]

I rolled a senticar sometime ago for Estrode and picked the 2 rezzes spec as we were progressing at the time. However I found it rly buggy, and my second rez never worked - assumed they shared a cooldown - so I respecced.

Going into ID, I'd love those 2 rezzes back and assume (given that no-one pointed out this problem) that they don't share a cooldown. In which case, why don't they work? Help Plox?

They definitely don't share a cooldown.

[Quietmode]

I rolled a senticar sometime ago for Estrode and picked the 2 rezzes spec as we were progressing at the time. However I found it rly buggy, and my second rez never worked - assumed they shared a cooldown - so I respecced.

Going into ID, I'd love those 2 rezzes back and assume (given that no-one pointed out this problem) that they don't share a cooldown. In which case, why don't they work? Help Plox?

If you had them macro'd, you might of misspelled one. Or the target was LoS or out of range or other items.

[SirSmithington]

How useful is the 3 meter radius increase on Embolden? How often is someone out of range but only out of range by 1-3 meters?

[LocoDK]

I was unable to replicate the ICD problem on dummy, as the projectile from BoR hit before my GCD was ready - this was from max range. Is this only an issue when the projectile takes longer to reach the target when the mob is "tall" - like stingers etc on akylios?

I myself prefer to do a conviction steadying macro instead of the max dps one, so I do Sovereignty top instead of the other instant casts, so that it's cd is running first and not last.

[Merridwyn]

Thx guys, that's good to know. Will give it another spin.