Cleric Multi-Role Gearing Guide (BiS)

[MaddBomber83]

Any chance this is getting updated with the RoTP and T2 Raid Rift stuff?

I believe he answered this, recently. It was something like yes, but he is working on a new format with more dynamic data. Until then, the addon NKA is great or any web site that uses stat weights such as magelo will also work for you. You can also throw in an excel spread sheet.

[cmd35]

Your weapons list is missing the Bane of Madness 2H mace from Akylios http://rift.zam.com/en/item/968A8FDC...ane-of-Madness
The question I have is whether the Mace proc works on spell attacks or if it is only melee and would the Captured Tsunami http://rift.zam.com/en/item/9CD9D59D...ptured-Tsunami be better anyways just because of the proc (the base stats are slightly worse if you are going for high SP).

[Arkan24]

Is there a list with ROTP loot ?

[Kalamar]

I'd liked this sheet.
Any Update for RotP or 1.7?

[Bowler Hat]

Hi All, sorry for being AFK for a while but I'm back now and what great timing. 1.7 is a massive gear reset, the biggest since launch. We haven't seen dropped loot upgraded since 1.2 and this is going to take a lot of time to filter through into the various online databases and BiS lists out there. One thing I can say for certain, is that every BiS list and every online loot resource just became redundant until they update their datasets to 1.7 drops.

I have spent considerable time updating nearly all vendor and crafted items available in game. I must say I am very impressed with what Trion have achieved, they have definitely realised their goal of making the gear upgrade path a smoother and more obvious experience. Most of the changes seem logical and well thought out, the addition of Focus to many healing items has predictably made many of them now BiS for some profiles. The previous DPS gear has been buffed as well and doesn't lag very far behind and sometimes pops out on top. Focus has been revisited across the board and is now in consistent quantities for all items at the same gear tier.

The only issue I have found is Focus being added to the T2 "healing" legs (formerly R1). I also suspect future gear sets will be restricted to two varieties inline with the Planar Conqueror's set. Oh, and it's nice that the T2 gear (formerly R1) now edges out PVP gear, eliminating the neccesity of grinding P8 to be the best you can be pre HK. The addition of Favor and Vengeance on PVP weapons should see some reduction in people wielding PVE relics in BG's as well.... maybe.

I have added a "1.7 Verified" column to the gear lists. When this is shaded green it signifies the gear has been updated to 1.7 stats. I have added a lot of gear but there are still a lot of drops to update and there was already a fair bit of gear missing. Some HK drops were missing and I never got around to adding CR and RotP drops and now there are also mCR drops to add as well! On top of that all of the Expert dungeon drops will need to be updated and the new Epic Chronicles loot as well, so there is a lot to do.

You can all help by contributing KNOWN gear stats here in this thread for gear you may have equipped or sitting in your bank or gear you can craft. Please only report items that have not been updated on the current gear list. Once I get some sort of confirmation on the stats (perhaps from multiple reporters) I will add them to the lists and republish. If you don't want to post in the thread or it gets out of hand then a PM is fine.

1.7.0 03/02/2012
* ADDED 1.7 Verified column to help track the 1.7 gear reset
* ADDED Colour Coding and line shading to help readability
* CHANGED Gear Tiers inline with Trion's classification
* REMOVED all cloth drops, they may be readded in the future
* ADDED all missing Vendor cloth mainly PVP and Planar
* ADDED some missing PVP and Tank Lesser Essences
* CORRECTED All T3 vendor gear (formerly R2)
* CORRECTED All T2 vendor gear (formerly R1)
* CORRECTED All T1 vendor gear (formerly T1 and T2)
* CORRECTED all Planar vendor gear
* CORRECTED all PVP vendor gear
* CORRECTED most crafted gear (crafted cloth will not be included)
* CORRECTED most BOE drops

[Bowler Hat]

Oh, and it's nice that the T2 gear (formerly R1) now edges out PVP gear, eliminating the neccesity of grinding P8 to be the best you can be pre HK.

Hmmm well I've run the numbers and using 4pc of PVP plus the Archangelic's/Archangelic's Vanquisher synergy crystal is still far enough ahead to warrant using it over T2 PVE gear. Unless the 4pc bonus from the Blighted Synergy crystal is too good to lose (perhaps the Inquisitor crystal proc is worth it).

5pc Shyla's + Diona's gloves + Blighted Synergy Crystal = 307SP 254SC
4pc Archangelic's + Shyla's helm + Diona's gloves + Archangelic's Synergy Crystal= 359SP 195SC

They didn't do much with the top PVP gear, generally just added armor, endurance and reduced Spell Crit. The gap between the sets is closer, but you'll still want your first forays into HK decked out in PVP gear, the bonus Armor and Endurance is nice as well.

[Kerbion]

Greetings,

I have been working on putting together a resource for all level 50 clerics that can help them navigate the gearing path from fresh 50 to current content raiders. Clerics have a particulalry tough time in the gearing department as we can perform every role in the game, have three sets of plaque raid gear, often wear cloth in some roles, and stack strength in others.

I have put together a spreadsheet that includes gear from early craftables and expert dungeon drops, all the way up to current raid content. Every item has an EP value calculated for one of four different EP Profiles, High Spell Crit, Balanced, High Spell Power & Tank. The spreadsheet can then be sorted depending on the profile you are interested in. Toughness and Focus are not factored into the EP values in the spreadsheet, however the values are all listed so you can still quickly find where a focus neck drops whilst you build up a focus capped raiding set. If you are in doubt about which profile you should use, Balanced is a safe choice. There is a table on the first page of each list that can help guide you further with some popular builds.

I should point out that these lists are aimed squarely at fresh 50 clerics and T1/T2 dungeoneers looking to gear themselves up for Raid content. They are not aimed at those whose gear places them near the top of the lists. When it comes to BiS items at this level, the spreadsheet requires far more inputs to give you more accurate outputs. The best lists in these situations are dynamic lists that take your build and stats into account when generating an EP value. Lists such as Radaks excellent tanking spreadsheets, and Fluxions healing spreadsheet achieve this with greater accuracy for those min/maxers amongst us.

The EP formulae are all very straightforward and use EP weighting values from previously published BiS lists. The EP tanking formula is of my own creation and works a little differently to the usual Health Equivalence lists. I have done this so that the spreadsheet is not unnecessarily bloated and is less reliant on having input data such as your total health pool and mitigation stats.

This is not to say that the formula is inaccurate, I believe it does a very good job in ranking tanking gear, but at the end of the day it is just a guide and the final decision should rest with you. The formula is very straightforward and makes use of Radak's recently published Stat Weight Values and weights them with the amount of endurance on an item.

Endurance is valued according to the amount of mitigation/avoidance the item provides. At higher levels of mitigation, each point of endurance is far more effective than a straight endurance item. This is what the Health Equivalence method quantifies and I have approximated this method by using the SWV to weight endurance which gives us the desired variable weighting for endurance.

When evaluating tanking gear you can usually just sort by the EP value, however if you are more interested in stacking mitigation and avoidance at the expense of endurance, you can use the SWV value instead.

Unfortunately GoogleDocs spreadsheets do not seem to support macros and I am unable to recreate the "click to sort" functionality I have in the Excel spreadsheet I have built. Hopefully I can resolve this issue, or come up with a viable alternative, but for now I have chosen to publish the spreadsheet as separate PDF's each one sorted by the four different EP columns. You'll get the gist of that pretty quickly once you open them up.

I have published them in Google Docs as a collection so I can quickly and easily update the lists when required. No doubt there are omisssions, there wil be comments, clarifications and I'm sure there may be some stuff-ups as well. Please notify me of any data entry errors, or if you have drop location information which is missing in the guide.

Enjoy! Your feedback would be appreciated.

Cleric Gear Guide

• http://tinyurl.com/ClericGearGuide (Use this link for easy sharing in-game)

• https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B3a...xOWQ1&hl=en_US

• Frequently Asked Questions

Resources

• Radak's dynamic Tanking Spreadsheet and BiS List

• Fluxion's dynamic Healing Spreadsheet and BiS List

Current Version

I will be updating this post as new versions are released, below are the recent changes.

OK, so I know that 1.7 made a lot of changes but I know they didn't nerf crafted blues and BoE 5 man drops so what's up with some of the stat values I'm seeing in your spreadsheet?

For example;
Slime-touched Wand 15 Int, 26 Wis, you have it listed as having, 36 Wis, 21 Int.

I can tell you right now, that that wand never had that much wisdom, or int. I've had it for months.

Effervescent Wand 13 Int, 18 Wis un-augmented, you have it lsited as 20 Int, 27 Wis....

It's really hard to set out a gear progression chart when the stats in the BiS guide are wrong. Please work on correcting this as this has completely shattered my confidence in this spreadsheet.

[Soulsurfing]

I have added a "1.7 Verified" column to the gear lists. When this is shaded green it signifies the gear has been updated to 1.7 stats. I have added a lot of gear but there are still a lot of drops to update and there was already a fair bit of gear missing. Some HK drops were missing and I never got around to adding CR and RotP drops and now there are also mCR drops to add as well! On top of that all of the Expert dungeon drops will need to be updated and the new Epic Chronicles loot as well, so there is a lot to do.

You can all help by contributing KNOWN gear stats here in this thread for gear you may have equipped or sitting in your bank or gear you can craft. Please only report items that have not been updated on the current gear list. Once I get some sort of confirmation on the stats (perhaps from multiple reporters) I will add them to the lists and republish. If you don't want to post in the thread or it gets out of hand then a PM is fine.

So glad I read this, didn't know you had already made some progress on this. As far as submitting, is the only way to do it to just type the stats, no way to grab it from in game? Screenshot seems slow and cumbersome. I can probably submit multiple pieces of lower tiered stuff.

Also I noticed on the MH page that you don't list the +7 spellpower rune, but you do list the +9 sp, +19 & +16 crit runes. I don't know if that was intentional.

Also what is the difference between your "Balanced" and "High Spell power" lists, shouldn't the balanced one just tell you everything so you can evaluate? And the high spell power one is for when you are crit capped and don't need crit...

[Bowler Hat]

OK, so I know that 1.7 made a lot of changes but I know they didn't nerf crafted blues and BoE 5 man drops so what's up with some of the stat values I'm seeing in your spreadsheet?

For example;
Slime-touched Wand 15 Int, 26 Wis, you have it listed as having, 36 Wis, 21 Int.

I can tell you right now, that that wand never had that much wisdom, or int. I've had it for months.

Effervescent Wand 13 Int, 18 Wis un-augmented, you have it lsited as 20 Int, 27 Wis....

It's really hard to set out a gear progression chart when the stats in the BiS guide are wrong. Please work on correcting this as this has completely shattered my confidence in this spreadsheet.

Nearly every drop from the old T1's and T2's (now just called T1) has had their stats adjusted which is why this is such a massive task. If you care to examine your Slime Touched Wand and the Effervescent Wand you will see that their stats now reflect what is in my Gear List. The "1.7 Verified" checkbox means I have seen the items stats first hand or had them independently reported by multiple people.

The introduction of Focus on certain items, and the big stat boost on others has changed the BiS order significantly in the lower half of the lists. For instance, the crafted Lightsmasher is now an awesome crafted 2H.

Perhaps your "shattered" confidence would be restored if you checked your gear ingame.

[Bowler Hat]

So glad I read this, didn't know you had already made some progress on this. As far as submitting, is the only way to do it to just type the stats, no way to grab it from in game? Screenshot seems slow and cumbersome. I can probably submit multiple pieces of lower tiered stuff.

Also I noticed on the MH page that you don't list the +7 spellpower rune, but you do list the +9 sp, +19 & +16 crit runes. I don't know if that was intentional.

Also what is the difference between your "Balanced" and "High Spell power" lists, shouldn't the balanced one just tell you everything so you can evaluate? And the high spell power one is for when you are crit capped and don't need crit...

I don't know of any method to just grab the data from ingame. I suspect the data is locked up somewhere in the game files and could possibly be extracted with some effort. Maybe Zam do this, I don't know. I just type everything out

I usually only list the top Runes per item in an effort to keep the list length under control, especially where the runes are cheap to craft. There are usually lower stat, cheaper version of the runes you can use if you are churning through upgrades quickly enough that you don't want to go to greater expense.

Balanced is a middle of the road safe bet profile that suits most cleric roles, particularly at lower spell crit levels. If you are in a crit based role such as Shaman you should use the high crit profile until your crit is around the 600-700ish mark, then switch to Balanced until 800-900ish, then switch to High Spellpower after that.

Balanced runs a SC:SP ratio of 1:2.15 and High Spellpower uses 1:3.51

For maximum control of your Crit ratio you should consider setting up a spreadsheet for your different gear sets to try to keep it in the region of your prefered ratio. Formulae are simple enough and are on the first page of my lists. Hopefully one day I will tidy mine up and make it available for download as a template. For now though all my spare time will be spent on updating the BiS lists.

In practice you are not going to turn down any upgrade just because it is a stronger spell crit piece. The best way to achieve some control over your crit ratio whilst gearing is through the use of a high crit and high spellpower sigil/source machine, and runing your gear for crit or SP depending on what you need to obtain the balance you desire.

[Bowler Hat]

I'd just like to add that the edit timer has finally expired on the first post in the thread so I have been unable to update it. The link works for the current gear list though, it's just the release note hasn't been updated. I have asked about having the timer reset, if that can't be done then I may have to start a new thread instead.

I am busily inspecting every cleric I see to verify gear. So far the biggest boosts are around the old T2 gear levels, higher level gear might only receive an armor buff and the addition of focus where appropriate. Some boosts are extraordinary, the GP Wand of Excess now equals the GSB relic for example. The CC Touch of Storms now equals the previously desirable mDD Twitching Spider Leg.

It's a great time to be gearing a fresh 50

[Bowler Hat]

New version uploaded. I have added RotP, Expert CR and the tier 2 Raid Rifts. These items have been added with the pre 1.7 stats and will need to be updated to their current ingame values ASAP. Please help by reporting itemisation stats when possible.

1.7.1 04/02/2012
* ADDED RRift2-Fire **PRE 1.7 items, stats yet to be updated**
* ADDED RRIFT2-Earth **PRE 1.7 items, stats yet to be updated**
* ADDED RotP **PRE 1.7 items, stats yet to be updated**
* ADDED CR **PRE 1.7 items, stats yet to be updated**
* ADDED uCR **PRE 1.7 items, stats yet to be updated**
* UPDATED Various items to 1.7 stats

[Bowler Hat]

A new version has been uploaded. Approximately 70% of the items have been updated.

1.7.2 05/02/2012
* UPDATED a lot of items to 1.7 stats

[VinciEX]

Good to see you back. Always loved your BiS Gear List

Some of your unverified drops:

Helm
Fallen Runemaster's Cowl: 868 Armor, 42 WIS, 27 INT, 0 END, 18 SP, 29 SC, 50 Focus

Gloves
Smoldersteel Gloves: 542 Armor, 33 WIS, 21 INT, 14 END, 17 SP, 20 SC, 50 Focus
Salvation's Grip: 542 Armor, 28 WIS, 20 INT, 15 END, 20 SP, 0 SC, 50 Focus

[Soulsurfing]

I'd just like to add that the edit timer has finally expired on the first post in the thread so I have been unable to update it. The link works for the current gear list though, it's just the release note hasn't been updated. I have asked about having the timer reset, if that can't be done then I may have to start a new thread instead.

War's 2hrw dps guide got to 200+ pages and no longer ediable, we started a new thread