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    Why no Censure in your rotation?

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    For the AOE caster build I assume you should be using a Sword and shield as your weapons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepperjack View Post
    For the AOE caster build I assume you should be using a Sword and shield as your weapons?
    I run two hander works fine at 34.. unless you got high justicar to get the shield talents dont see much point in going shield unless you can find one with a one hander with more spellpower than a two hander which at my level I havent seen yet

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    How in the world are you leveling with that build? Am I missing something??
    You have 0 points in castigation, 0 points in Life and death concord and 0 in Symbol of Corruption so you're not using Bolt of Judgement on a reg basis.
    You have 1 AOE spell on a 10 sec cooldown. How the hell are you killing anything at all?? Does Vex really do that much damage that you can just stand there and wait for stuff to die?

    I must not be seeing something right lol.
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    Default thank you thank you thank you

    I have been running your aoe spec exclusively since i read this guide and jammed through levels. I couldnt wait to 31 to try out the just/inq/pur build and WOW. On the bridge outside of stonehill i pulled 8 mobs and pow pow all dead, and yes yes i understand they where 5 levels below but still wow. I have had great success with your guide and still going strong with it. I would really like to see what you come up with for single target though as in pvp having to stay put really kinda sux. I just become a pet magnet lol but either thanks a ton and much love for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnegan View Post
    How in the world are you leveling with that build? Am I missing something??
    You have 0 points in castigation, 0 points in Life and death concord and 0 in Symbol of Corruption so you're not using Bolt of Judgement on a reg basis.
    You have 1 AOE spell on a 10 sec cooldown. How the hell are you killing anything at all?? Does Vex really do that much damage that you can just stand there and wait for stuff to die?

    I must not be seeing something right lol.
    You Vex mobs, Fanatism + Soul drain, heal up and/or redot and second sould drain will finish the job.
    Vex with mental resilience + soul drain are very hard hitting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orori View Post
    You Vex mobs, Fanatism + Soul drain, heal up and/or redot and second sould drain will finish the job.
    Vex with mental resilience + soul drain are very hard hitting
    This. When you can use circle of oblivion you won't even need a second soul drain for most mobs. Oh, and all ticks crit with the crit buff active.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnegan View Post
    How in the world are you leveling with that build? Am I missing something??
    You have 0 points in castigation, 0 points in Life and death concord and 0 in Symbol of Corruption so you're not using Bolt of Judgement on a reg basis.
    You have 1 AOE spell on a 10 sec cooldown. How the hell are you killing anything at all?? Does Vex really do that much damage that you can just stand there and wait for stuff to die?

    I must not be seeing something right lol.
    My experience with basically the same build (altough I go Warden for Waterjet+Hot) is that I find 4 melee mobs (or 3 and a ranged), Bolt of Depravity 1, then vex it, then vex the other 3 with a Sanction Heretic at the end. Then I pop Fanaticism and Soul Drain. At this point equal level mobs are all almost dead and the first target is probably dead on its own from BoD and Vex. If necessary I hit Doctrine of Bliss for instant healing, and then either just spam my instas on the remaining mobs, or cast a HoT and then Soul Drain when it's off cooldown. Usually I don't need 2 SDs since I can usually just finish the last 3 off with 3 or 4 waterjets.

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    Love this guide but after taking few builds from it and reading it mutiple times I really don't think you can claim it is a Leveling Guide in it. It is builds and mentions nothing on what area / zone to be at certain levels which is whole point of a leveling specific guide. Probably can't edit the title but for some it will be misleading but does offer ton on the AoE build side and macros. Best guide on here by far because like some other threads is hasn't turned into a ego competition of who does more DPS with what they think are special builds they figured out before everyone else :|

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    Quote Originally Posted by _iLLusive_ View Post
    Love this guide but after taking few builds from it and reading it mutiple times I really don't think you can claim it is a Leveling Guide in it. It is builds and mentions nothing on what area / zone to be at certain levels which is whole point of a leveling specific guide. Probably can't edit the title but for some it will be misleading but does offer ton on the AoE build side and macros. Best guide on here by far because like some other threads is hasn't turned into a ego competition of who does more DPS with what they think are special builds they figured out before everyone else :|
    It really isn't dragon science to figure out that you go for melee mobs and preferably not those that are 5 levels higher than you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rounin View Post
    It really isn't dragon science to figure out that you go for melee mobs and preferably not those that are 5 levels higher than you.
    (If you are going to choose to respond to a quoted post be adult and read the whole post first instead of just having tunnel vision and acting like a 5 year old and only riding on the one negative thing out of 5 other positive valid points)

    So when did I state anything about what type of mobs you can and can not kill? Leveling guide shows specific area and when to go there at certain level. We all know of like KFG guides and other popular (dumb if you pay for them) Leveling guides and free ones on forums are a walk through of what zones / quest / level to do them at. You obviously are just being silly if you forget I mentioned all information was GREAT and I had used multiple builds from it. On top of solid discussion throughout the post, BUT it is not a persay "Leveling Guide" as it is moreso a Grinding Build Guide / Macros / Step by step since it tells nothing of quest or leveling process information. Which of course is common sense but even I wouldn't mind knowing recommended areas at like lvl 36-37 to hit up when you run into those speedbumps in gaps of huge quest hubs and instances that you are in the middle of being too high / too low for next step.

    Anyways for those who can read I love the information here and was just a personal clarification that it isn't really that information to be called the first part of the title. No big deal it is still by far the best information on the cleric forums. So sad that so many people NOT willing to help share and pass on information. I have asked 2-3 questions in last week to be ignored with no response from supposedly knowledgable lvl 50. Because they don't wish to share anything but the epeen post of there amazing DPS numbers and rather argue with other forum goers then to answer simple questions on if certain lvl 50 build would work as leveling build, or if lvl 50 range DPS build would work at mid lvl instance build.

    Oh well long as I can find one person to have intelligent response and run questions of them these forums are still worth it. Slowly declining to be like Aion forums though sad to see so new into the game. Nothing wrong with not wanting to help your fellow players, but don't come post information and then be ignorant and from there on out to good and to big of an ego to continue to help. Just stay off the forums all together and not post your 1400DPS parse but not be willing to discuss gear / spec / rotation preference / macro usage. Spent tons of time passing on valid and valuable information in EQ community for years and was a great place. Same with first few years of Priest / Warrior community in WoW. Aion never really had great theorycrafting or helpful forums being it wasn't supporting by crappy quality forums on the main site. Hope threads like these continue to be filled with useful and friendly people passing on knowledge. Instead of people being in a ego contest about who has the best secrets to throw some parse numbers around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _iLLusive_ View Post
    (If you are going to choose to respond to a quoted post be adult and read the whole post first instead of just having tunnel vision and acting like a 5 year old and only riding on the one negative thing out of 5 other positive valid points)
    Gotta love ad hominems, they are truly adult and mature tools for arguments. (well, I admit that I actually expected this)

    Leveling guide shows specific area and when to go there at certain level.
    What you ask for is a step-by-step walkthrough. This is perfectly good as a guide since it gives you the right tools (and multiple options at that) to level up.

    -= Warning! Hyperbole incoming! =-

    Of course it fails if your expectations are (made up numbers):
    "Go to 5546,3345 and kill 1387 of the fugly grey canines - assuming you don't have rested XP - then go to 4562,3201 and kill 2760 of the pale ghost-like thingies. After that train your skills and..." etc. etc.
    Come on, a guide does _not_ need to hold your hand the whole time to be qualified as a guide.

    It's not like the level of mobs is HIDDEN so the presumably intelligent, if a bit maybe lost, reader can't find stuff to kill. This isn't like EVE where you can lose everything if you wander into the wrong place. One might say it's pretty linear.

    And you would be correct to accuse me of not reading the whole of your second, long winded post, my dear unfriend.
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    A few things I wanted to mention after reading through this guide:
    • Awesome guide.
    • Level 10 build: Why would you have 4 pts in Entropy for 4% dot damage when you could have 4 pts in Death's Grasp (to the left of it) and have 4% every spell damage?
    • You can contact Vespera or any of the other forum admins if you want the thread unlocked so you can edit the guide.
    • Why would you put 3 points into Druid at 10 to get melee power, when you're casting the majority of the time? Wouldn't it be more advantageous to add END to the "Fragile" build?

    I know Sketch asked about DG > Entropy in post 13, but no one answered him way back then either as far as I saw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormbow View Post
    A few things I wanted to mention after reading through this guide:
    • Awesome guide.
    • Level 10 build: Why would you have 4 pts in Entropy for 4% dot damage when you could have 4 pts in Death's Grasp (to the left of it) and have 4% every spell damage?
    • You can contact Vespera or any of the other forum admins if you want the thread unlocked so you can edit the guide.
    • Why would you put 3 points into Druid at 10 to get melee power, when you're casting the majority of the time? Wouldn't it be more advantageous to add END to the "Fragile" build?

    I know Sketch asked about DG > Entropy in post 13, but no one answered him way back then either as far as I saw.
    The 4 points in Entropy is probably a mistake, especially if Deaths Grasp also increases your AP (through Faith in Action) - but the guy who were kind enough to make the guide, apparently quit so we'll never know

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