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    Default Advice: Cleric vs. Rogue for returning player

    Hello:

    Another returning player here. I have a high lvl warrior but I am looking to restart and am stuck between leveling rogue or cleric. I was wondering if someone could briefly list the pros and cons for each of these classes both leveling and endgame. I have both classes at 15, and enjoy each. I just cant seem to decide which to take to max lvl.

    Searching the forums I see a number of posts comparing warriors and clerics, but none discussing rogues. I am a casual player who enjoys rifts, dungeons, & PvP. I am not much of a raider.

    Thanks a bunch!

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    For openworld activities, there's no real difference between the classes - all four have fully viable soloing specs; thus there's no functional difference between clerics and rogues.

    for instances, clerics can be tanks, healers or dps, but are (generally) most valued - or most likely to get a fast queue - healing. conceivably also for tanking, but cleric tanking is something I know almost nothing about. rogues can be tanks, dps and support, and will get fastest queues for support. rogue dps is significantly better than cleric dps at end-game (ie, raiding and pvp), but cleric dps is good enough for instances.

    for pvp, rogues have many variants of dps build - melee and ranged - and a support build; clerics, unless they're high rank (or, in warfronts <50), are really best advised to heal. things are different below level 50 and from 50: below 50, both clerics and rogues can dps effectively; once you hit 50, the lack of spellpower at low ranks means that healing is a much better option for clerics than dps. rogue dps at low rank is also not impressive, but you can always spam Eradicate to be effective to your team.

    clerics, because they can heal, will always be more welcome in groups - but you'll be expected to heal. rogues can be less welcomed in groups, but when you are in, you can happily dps.

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    If you plan on pvping drop cleric and pick any other class. For casual solo play however clerics are great. If you plan on raiding, pick mage since they outperform every class. Best support buff class, best dps class, best healers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naesraen View Post
    For openworld activities, there's no real difference between the classes - all four have fully viable soloing specs; thus there's no functional difference between clerics and rogues.

    for instances, clerics can be tanks, healers or dps, but are (generally) most valued - or most likely to get a fast queue - healing. conceivably also for tanking, but cleric tanking is something I know almost nothing about. rogues can be tanks, dps and support, and will get fastest queues for support. rogue dps is significantly better than cleric dps at end-game (ie, raiding and pvp), but cleric dps is good enough for instances.

    for pvp, rogues have many variants of dps build - melee and ranged - and a support build; clerics, unless they're high rank (or, in warfronts <50), are really best advised to heal. things are different below level 50 and from 50: below 50, both clerics and rogues can dps effectively; once you hit 50, the lack of spellpower at low ranks means that healing is a much better option for clerics than dps. rogue dps at low rank is also not impressive, but you can always spam Eradicate to be effective to your team.

    clerics, because they can heal, will always be more welcome in groups - but you'll be expected to heal. rogues can be less welcomed in groups, but when you are in, you can happily dps.
    just a minor point; both clerics and rogues will get fastest queues as tank.
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    Cleric all the way. Right now in PvP there are two classes that matter. Warriors and Clerics. I play my Rank 13 Cleric to take a break from how wet noodle my Rank 40 Rogue is.

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    Ive benn gone for about a week and a half and your telling me that in that time clerics went from a free kill for any class to OP over a P40 rogue. I smell a keyboard turner.
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    cleric everyone needs more clerics currently

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    Quote Originally Posted by Credo View Post
    Cleric all the way. Right now in PvP there are two classes that matter. Warriors and Clerics. I play my Rank 13 Cleric to take a break from how wet noodle my Rank 40 Rogue is.
    Now see, I did not wnt to know how wet noodle R40 rogues are. (I'm R28 ATM). No wonder peeps roll other classes. I've a warrior and cleric on standby.
    Last edited by Nuuli; 06-13-2012 at 02:06 PM.

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    roll cleric:

    it's the one class that can almost play itself

    superb solo ability in open world due to self healing and never running out of mana.. the more mobs the merrier.

    Faster, much faster to level.

    being able to honestly qeue for instances as anything

    end game, need clerics, for heals and raid benefits.

    pvp: clerics have it all, under one spec, healing, mitigation, cc, and massive damage if none of those other things out lasted your opponant.

    rogue is fun because its a challeneg, being the black sheep of a game is difficult.

    cleric is fun because winning is fun...
    Last edited by Mirimon; 06-13-2012 at 05:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirimon View Post
    roll cleric:

    it's the one class that can almost play itself

    superb solo ability in open world due to self healing and never running out of mana.. the more mobs the merrier.

    Faster, much faster to level.

    being able to honestly qeue for instances as anything

    end game, need clerics, for heals and raid benefits.

    pvp: clerics have it all, under one spec, healing, mitigation, cc, and massive damage if none of those other things out lasted your opponant.

    rogue is fun because its a challeneg, being the black sheep of a game is difficult.

    cleric is fun because winning is fun...
    I lol'ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirimon View Post

    pvp: clerics have it all, under one spec, healing, mitigation, cc, and massive damage if none of those other things out lasted your opponant.

    rogue is fun because its a challeneg, being the black sheep of a game is difficult.

    cleric is fun because winning is fun...
    Quote Originally Posted by kode9 View Post
    I lol'ed
    I also lol'ed. his ignorance is more annoying than it is funny though lol.

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