planar atunement makes me not as able to reroll

[jinkies1234]

I don't like the fact that its so difficult to build up PA even with all the new buffs. It really discourages the use of my other charachters since my experience would be better spent on advancing my original charachter.
Does anyone else feel like they've been pigeon holed? Would it be possible to have a join account experience pool thats shared among charachters or just points are allowed through entire acct?

[Tristaynia]

Same goes for anything though.... time on an alt is less planarite, less inscribed sourcestones, less achievement contribution, less plaques, less favor in short, less gearing on your main. Many disagree but I still argue the case that PA isn't that big a thing, it's a very nice bonus sure but only the elite are going to NEED players with high PA.... and they're the sort to put every minute into their main anyway.

In short, don't worry about it.... this game is about fun, and if you're having more fun on an alt than grinding PA or Inscribed sourcestones then that's what you should do.

Everything has a price, you just need to decide if the cost is worth it

[Zadozex]

In theory they could make planar attunement account wide. In the Planar Attunement window, you would see numbers for:
"Total Account Planar Attunement Points" (added)
"Total Planar Attunement Spent on this Character" (currently in game)
"Total Planar Attunement left to spend" (currently in game)

The class trainers could offer options:
"Reset Character Planar Attunement" - 100p (currently in game)
"Reset Account Planar Attunement" - 200p (added)

Now this would open up the possibility of making several alts and running them through the T2/PvP daily so they get the free 250k exp. So theoretically you'll get extra dailies each day, but only for experience, not for extra marks. I don't really see this as too bad a thing. For hardcore PA grinders, I'm sure killing mobs/invasions is more exp per hour than a T2 anyway. Those of us non-grinders with 1 or 2 alts would get a little extra experience on 1 toon if we wanted, but we still have to actually run the T2 for it.

With it being a 200p fee, it's not like you could do this every other day. But for people that genuinely want to reroll their character or delete an alt they no longer wish to play. this would be very nice. PA experience is meant to reflect your time spent doing things in game, so it would be nice if it wasn't restricted to each character as it is now. I don't really mind things as they are now, but I certainly would be pleased if they added this option.

[BrownsMageNerfDelivery]

I agree, it would be nice to share PA for toons on the same account, but I'm not sure it's the best idea.

Then again...put so much time into my mage but I spend grind time on my rogue since my rogue has all the gathering professions...

Meh, I'll just afk/log in Sanctum and build up a ******ed amount of rested XP.

[PFalcon]

If PA keeps you from playing other characters, you need to take a long look at yourself and try to fix why you perseverate on things so small at the expense of your entertainment.

Let it go. PA doesn't matter.

[masakari81]

PA only matters if you're a min maxer. I know of people with very little PA who outperform people with a lot of PA.... it helps, but its not a substitute for playing your class well.

So by all means, play your alts. All that time grinding PA gives you about as much benefit as the next equipment piece upgrade.... its good if you care about it... but you can live without it if you want variety in your life. I do spend a bit more time on my main, but still get on my alt relatively frequently. Main, I bother with PA, alt I've not even spent the few PA points I have learned.

[mo0trix]

PA isn't important?

I suppose, if you have no interest in being the best you can be in game, it isn't.

Tier 3 isn't even out yet... but already people claim it's not important... haha

[Zadozex]

I don't really follow the logic here. If PA levels "don't mean much", then why not add a feature like this? How is that an argument for keeping things the way they are? The only worry with adding a feature like this is that people would be able to get PA levels quicker than Trion would like. If that's not the issue, then why not add a feature that lets people be more flexible? A feature that lets people change their mind on how they want to play and not be penalized for making a switch. If it imbalances the game, then no don't add it.

And why do people keep saying PA levels don't matter? I would argue that they matter more now than ever. Look at the miniscule stat differences between each tier of gear now, particularly T1 and T2 raids! Going from one T1 raid gear piece to a replacement T2 raid gear piece is about the same as the stats you could get from 1-2k PA attunement points. I'm sitting around 22k PA attunement points. Probably more than a lot of people, but not insanely high like some hardcore PA farmers. I have something like +9.2 weapon DPS on my 2H axe. That's like having a permanent raid consumable on. If a fresh 50 warrior had an Aklyios relic, I would out DPS them even with my T1 relic axe.

[Shade0o]

Personaly, apart from getting the extra planar focus, all my PA now goes into the PvP tree(cant think of a word that fits)...
and PvP is only about 10% of my gameplay...
sure the extra stats would be nice but since i can solo EI content quite easily (shamicar), can take on an elite with a CDs. only problem is when players show up while im in PvE gear

[Tristaynia]

PA isn't important?

I suppose, if you have no interest in being the best you can be in game, it isn't.

Tier 3 isn't even out yet... but already people claim it's not important... haha

I think the logic being put across here is that PA is only really important to people who want to be the best of the best, and those people will be grinding every last little thing for their main anyway and not care about the alt thing.

For the average person who does content at a reasonable speed, PA just really isn't going to make an enormous difference (a nice bonus, sure) so relax, chill out and go and play on your alt if it's more fun

Basically if you're using the argument of 'PA matters because you need to be the best' then having an alt is out anyway due to the loss of practice time, planarite and inscribed grinding etc etc.

[Phage]

PA's combined are basically the same difference as a full tier of gear for casters. You can get 146 Spell Power from your weapons and 60 to your stats, which is pretty huge for casters.

You can definitely make the case that it is in no way worth your time to get/grind PA's, but assuming equal gear and skill, you would lose.

Unfortunately the importance of PA's is on the flip side that many hardcore players don't really have anything left to do on their mains. They ran all the quests a year ago. They killed all the bosses months ago. There really isn't a strong argument to rerun everything on them except for experience, which isn't really that fun to grind out a 1,000 PA's doing rehashed activities.

Personally I think sharing the PA XP across characters level 50 would work out well. It gives people an incentive to play alts, explore more of the game, and not have to worry about grinding. Plus it would make the earlier game community a bit less sparse and destitute.

While it would be nice to have all characters use all the PA's, if the XP just fed into a single pool to take points from, that would work too. The end goal is just to play alts while getting PA's for main characters.

There could be abuse from daily rewards that might need to be mitigated, but even then the grind for PA's is so long as is that Trion should try to make it easier for people to flesh out their mains and not to discourage players from trying other classes or characters.

[Ming]

I have to agree with those who say take a chill pill. If you're honestly stressing about the opportunity cost of playing alt characters you're chasing a delusion. Trust me, I've been playing these games since before they even had graphics (MUD days) and there is no reward for uber. Nobody cares but you and all of that passion will someday turn to dust when you realize the opportunity cost of playing these games at all. If you can look back and say "I had fun with_____" and not "omg I want that year back." Seriously, think 10 or 15 years down the line... you're starting to feel aged... you look back with fondness for those early days- do you really want to remember that were worried about the cost of playing an alt on that game that doesn't even exist anymore?

[Archemys]

PA shouldn't be shared in an account... Just think of it as a level increase. Pretend that your level 50 w\ 20k into PA is really a lvl 60 or something.

They've made alot of effort to make PA easy to grind, so it shouldn't be too bad.

[Anuhart]

Oh look, another thread where the "I worked for it, casual noob" retort crowd, turncoat and QQ for freebies because they don't want to earn it.

Regardless of the fact that the suggestion of altering the status quo would have adverse effects on people.

[Traciatim]

Hmmm, account bound planar attunement XP items that are purchasable with PA XP, inscribed and planarite from 1 character to mail to the others.

So if you have points to spare (Ie, you just reset or gained a level) you could use those points plus 10 inscribed and 5k planarite to make a planar attunement voucher that gives the points to an alt . . . I could see something like that working.

Simply making all PA XP universal to all characters is a terrible idea.