new dailies are disadvantaging to low level chars

[BlackZodiac]

Yeah it is crazy...low lvls do suffer and I end up sending my quest gold to my 28th. On my 28th I got the Med quest, so I went to the droughtlands during the zone event, granted all I saw was elitesin my eyes considering the lvl, so I said F it.today is a good day to die. . I went around shooting the bosses till I did damage, then ran off, let others killed them, got the stones and turned in for planarite. I finished up with it by going to shimmer in a world event and collected big time there. All this for a medic quest

[Ancem]

The medic quest is one of several dailies.


Today was to use a planar lure at a rift. Yesterday was use defiant flare. The day before that was use fury of ascended... so it's basically a different ascended power each day. If you don't have medic - it's very simple to abandon your quest and take the current one.

You're not going to be far behind on getting an event mount by abandoning 1 quest.



You're welcome.

To be fair, the quests are chosen at random. It seems to be chosen once for each faction on each server, and being random you can get the same quest on consecutive days. I got the medic quest on two of my toons (same server, same faction) the flare on two others (same server, other faction) and dropped the medic quests because I didn't have the ability. The next day the same toons got the medic quest again, the other two got planar lure. So even those who know they can drop the quest for another the next day may end up a few quests behind.

Now, if this event follows the previous patterns there will be a new set of quests when the phase changes, this Thursday or perhaps next week. And unfinished quests will be autocompleted and you'll get the rewards anyway, so you will probably get the mount token even if you haven't completed eight dailies.

[Gray]

The problem I'm finding is that there aren't enough earth / fire invasions.

this. it's ok that all kinds of rifts can spawn in a zone now (although I liked the "theme" per zone, like death/water for freemarch, if you needed X rift you could just run to the zone), but they seriously should dial that back for events.
and not just world events. way to often I see "close rifts 3/12" and there are THREE rifts of that type in a zone. or eye for an eye in stillmoor where either are not enough death rifts OR all the rifts are in the south OR north.

[SanguineDeath]

I log back to this thread to find even more of the same QQ. All these people talking about getting 15k planarite should spend far less time in the forum- they'd probably be level 50 by now, and then they too, could sit back and /facepalm at the level of stupidity here.

Many "casual" players report that with an average of 2 hours of gameplay per day, they reached level 50 in approximately 2 weeks. By that same logic, the people who are currently level 28-30ish that are QQing in this thread could easily hit 50 and bang out 15k planarite well before the event ends.

If I may, a slight correction. They can bang out 15K planarite in a few hours in one day doing IA's I've done it, it's not at all hard. But it won't be accomplished QQ'ing on the forums, I can tell you THAT much

[AlainnRift]

The problem I'm finding is that there aren't enough earth / fire invasions. I've had to wait around for two hours trying to track down ONE invasion that gives experience, and the quest that requires you to defeat 15 earth / fire invasions is very difficult for low-level characters. It'd be nice if the developers made it so that more earth / fire invasions or events spawned, or else they changed the requirements so that any type of planar invasion satisfied the quests. I've taken to camping around the few earth / fire rifts/idols I can find, hoping for them to spawn invasions, only for nothing to come out after 15 minutes of waiting and/or someone to run along and decide they want to close it.

I'm lucky enough to have a level 50 that I can switch to and use to tear open forming rifts into Earth or Fire. I've found that very helpful because, yeah, there simply aren't enough low level Earth/Fire rifts. If I don't actually need to close the rift for the daily, I just kill my 15 or invasion from it and leave the rift there for other people to use.

[Islesi]

Am I the only one NOT getting credit for 8 dailies when I turn in the 500 ingot quest? I was under the impression that it was meant to count.

[Ninevah]

Am I the only one NOT getting credit for 8 dailies when I turn in the 500 ingot quest? I was under the impression that it was meant to count.

No, you're not alone. I didn't get credit, either. In fact, I didn't even get to choose whether to complete the quest. I already had 500 ingots and they just disappeared from my inventory when I got the quest--but I didn't get any credit for it towards the "Victory Begins at Home" quest.

Allegedly, they fixed it with today's patch, but that doesn't help those of us who got hosed over prior to this. (I still don't have credit for completing it)

[Ninevah]

Well, now I have to change my story. I submitted a petition to a GM in game about not getting credit on the "Victory Beings at Home" quest and within a few hours had a polite response from a GM and had credit for it applied to my character.

I wasn't expecting HELPFUL support in an MMO. Trion/Rift support has happily proven those expectations wrong!

[Edwinavanhelgen]

Ascended Fury - Use Fury of the Ascended to destroy a fire or earth invasion of an appropriate level.

What's wrong with this quest?

• You have to find a fire or earth invasion. That's all well and good if you're lucky enough to have a fire or earth zone invasion happen while you're logged in, but if that doesn't happen, then the zones that are for your level have to have rifts in them that the invasions can come out of (at least at 50 you can cause tears to open as the rift of your choice). They don't spawn from the rifts very often, and other players could be closing the rifts before the invasions get a chance to spawn.
• If an invasion does spawn from a rift, then you have to intercept it before they get to where they're going, set up a foothold, then vanish.
• More often than not, what's marked on the map as an invasion is just the foothold that replaced it.
• For the first phase the description didn't say that it required fire or earth invasions.

How to complete it?

• Get lucky and have a zone invasion happen (might not happen while you're logged in).
• Sit and wait for ages by a rift of the right kind, waiting for an invasion to come out of it.
• Sit by a porticulum and race across the map to intercept an invasion, if one spawns from a rift.

Drawing Them Out - Open a tear, then close a rift (both of appropriate level)

What's wrong with this quest?

• If anything it's too easy compared to some of the others.

Gold! Glorious Gold! - turn in 500 molten gold ingots.

What's wrong with this quest?

• At the level of my highest character, I'm getting 20-25 ingots for each rift closed, so that would be 20-25 rifts, which takes a fair bit of time to do for a quest which is called a daily.
• I have 500 ingots on a couple of my characters, but given how badly I'm doing with the dailys, I'd like to hang onto them in case somehow the mounts will be made available for 2000 ingots, like they were on the PTS (would be nice to get some confirmation if this is going to happen or not).

Medic! - Call forth a healer with your Rescue Medic ability.

What's wrong with this quest?

• I don't have the Recue Medic ability, and I'm not likely to get it before the last phase of the event is over, even if I was to farm rifts solidly while logged in over the duration of the event.

Never Alone - Use Defiant's/Guardian's Flare on a planar foothold that would grant experience.

What's wrong with this quest?

• I couldn't get it to work on earth or fire footholds. The icon was dimmed out, and it gave an error message 'Required conditions not met' when I tried to use it on them.
• I didn't get quest completion using it on a death or life foothold.
• I did get quest completion using it on a Guardian's foothold. Do they even count as planar? Why would anyone consider using it on one when it says 'planar'?

Shut-in - kill 15 fire or earth rift creatures that would grant experience.

What's wrong with this quest?

• Again, if anything it's too easy compared to some of the others.

Skin of My Teeth - Collect 15 Wanton Maw Orders from invasions that would grant experience.

What's wrong with this quest?

• This has the same problem as Ascended Fury, but it's 15 times worse, because you need to kill 15 invasions.
• If you manage to turn in the quest (because you got lucky and had a zone invasion happen while logged in), you get to keep any spare orders you got, in case you get it again. If you abandon it though, because you didn't get enough during that day for a turn in, then you lose them all. Even if you did it to see if the next day's quest was something you're more likely to complete (and of course it could end up being Skin of My Teeth again, except you now have no orders).

I'm far from a casual player, and I can sit in front of the computer for hours on end waiting for a zone invasion to happen, or for individual invasions to spawn. I'm still having difficulty completing half of the quests offered. I managed to scrape 8/8 on 2 characters, more due to luck with the quests I got, than the huge amount of time I was putting into doing them. For the more casual players, who can only be logged in for a few hours in the evening, they're just not going to have the same opportunities that I do, and if they get a run of quests they can't complete, then they're SOL.



So what could have been done differently with these quests?

• Their difficulty could have been more uniform. At the moment it's all over the place. I managed to complete well over half of the 1000 rift creature kills needed for the guild weekly in one day, on my own, never mind the 15 for this daily quest, but the only time I've managed Skin of My Teeth was when I got lucky and had a zone invasion of the right kind happen while I was logged in. Without a zone invasion the best I've managed is 6/15 orders, after 7 hours logged in, watching the map for invasion spawns.
• Anything that required invasions could have also included footholds, so the window of opportunity wasn't so small.
• Quests that players have no hope of doing shouldn't have been offered to them. Either give players a subset of the available quests, that they can expect to complete at their level, or just give all the dailys and the quest that requires 8 of them a high enough required level, that people who can't do them, aren't trying to do them. At the moment you're just wasting a lot of people's time, and teasing them with something they're not going to get without a huge amount of luck and hard work.

[Nuuli]

Do it the same way everyone else did it? Kill invasions and rifts. As far as I know the dailies sent going anywhere...or are you just saying you want the reward without putting in the effort everyone else did

One the the world event dailies is Medic!, to complete this quest you need to purchase it. It's not reasonably achieved by a lowbee. I spent the last two days on my 19 doing rifts and whatever invasions occurred. I've sent vouchers. Still can't get it anywhere near 15,000k.

[Kadeth]

A level 10-20 has a hard time with getting 16 dailies done.

500 ingots took me 6 days
Summon rescue medic- forget it, no way to get the planarite for the skill before the event ends.
Kill Fire and Earth creatures - do-able.
Upgrade Wardstones - do-able.

So of the 4 that's only 2 a low level can do and, only one or the other comes up every second day, so a minimum of 32 days needed to get 16 dailies done. In a 30 day event, it is impossible.

Now I did get the ingots but, ONLY because they are bound to account and there is a one time low level quest that gives them. I created new toons, did that and mailed ingots to the one I want the mount on. Even that takes 1-3 days depending on the hours you have to play each new toon.

If we could mail planarite, no problem, again repeat new toons, do the delivery to Sylver over and over to get the medic ability but, that is not an option.

All I can do is hope another event gives the currency needed and the mounts because getting it by May 24 is not happening on a level 15 toon.

[Nuuli]

15k planarite is one houre in ember island onslaught ...

The point is, that it's very high priced for lowbees. I've been running <20's. I'm averaging 20 planes per rift. Same with the ingots. 500 ingots is reachable. 15k planers. Not so. I'm glad to know that I have to drop that quest in order to get another random. Seems to me there should have been better options for lower players.

[Nuuli]

I log back to this thread to find even more of the same QQ. All these people talking about getting 15k planarite should spend far less time in the forum- they'd probably be level 50 by now, and then they too, could sit back and /facepalm at the level of stupidity here.

Here's another pro tip: This game is geared around, and aimed at, level 50 players. Everything up to level 50 is simply an extended introduction to the class system, dungeon and combat mechanics, and the like. Do you really think it's just a lapse in judgement or foresight on Trion's part that all of the new content is aimed at endgame players?

Many "casual" players report that with an average of 2 hours of gameplay per day, they reached level 50 in approximately 2 weeks. By that same logic, the people who are currently level 28-30ish that are QQing in this thread could easily hit 50 and bang out 15k planarite well before the event ends.

Again, I submit: stop asking for a handout. And yes, asking Trion to make things easier for "your level" is still asking for a handout. Perhaps take a crack at playing the game as intended? You know, the whole 'level up, progression' thing? You may have heard about it in passing....

Now that's interesting. Trion places an xp lock so that a player can avoid blowing through zones to get to 50. I've already 5 x 50's. I chose my next to go at a slower place. Enjoy the scenery and such. I have plenty ingots but can't get past the planarites. I believe they should have more level quests.
Not asking for a handout. Just less grind.

[Kadeth]

Level 50 in under 30 hours? Well maybe if you pay 60.00 for that power leveling guide or risk giving your account info to a power leveling spam artists. Doing every quest possible (group ones are rarely possible as LFG means a 3-5 hour wait or never anyway) I at 4-6 hrs/day with 1 hr crafting, I get maybe 30 in two weeks.

There simply needs to be a way for lower levels to actually enjoy and get something for doing world events and, I don't mean a silly title or companion pet, something useful like a mount, gear that last more than two levels etc...

[Laban of C O]

i am talking about the medic daily. how is a low level supposed to get 15000 planarite to learn the medic?
and dont tell me to exchange 30 iss for 15000 planarite.....


will there be another dailies aswell? because i cant see my alts finishing 16 dailies for the mount anytime soon.

Spend a day... and level up, or do the other quests.