new dailies are disadvantaging to low level chars

[Kantazo]

They're repeatable quests. You never finish them.

Now it makes sense, thanks for the explanation and apologize for the rant. But my hair kind gut stuck this morning.

[Saeleth]

Dunno what to tell you. I think that quest is aimed more at 50s to be honest.

[SanguineDeath]

no, farm 15k planarite with your lvl 25-30 aswell as 500 ingots each day.

everything else is clearly instant gratification

sigh... you're forgetting that the ingots are bop's so farm them with a higher lvl toon. And it's NOT impossible to get 15K on a low lvl toon - you're just QQ'ing. Do rifts appropriate for your lvl. Or do zone events for your lvl and lower. You'll get source stones. Trade them in for the planarite boxes that are sold by the rare planarite salespeople. Not rocket science ppl. and more Pew Pew and less QQ will get the planarite faster

[Kantazo]

sigh... you're forgetting that the ingots are bop's so farm them with a higher lvl toon. And it's NOT impossible to get 15K on a low lvl toon - you're just QQ'ing. Do rifts appropriate for your lvl. Or do zone events for your lvl and lower. You'll get source stones. Trade them in for the planarite boxes that are sold by the rare planarite salespeople. Not rocket science ppl. and more Pew Pew and less QQ will get the planarite faster

Typical answer coming from a hardcore master!!!

[SanguineDeath]

Typical answer coming from a hardcore master!!!

Not really... just what I happen to do and it's something called, "common sense" but I've found most ppl QQ more than use common sense... It's easier to complain and whine than it is to think and do...

[Niphridil]

Based upon a number of replies to the Original Poster, and a few others as well, I've come up with the following 2 main points:

· With my highest level character being 31, I'll get enough level appropriate Stones from doing invasions?
· In no time at all doing lvl 30-ish rifts/invasions I'll have 15,000 planarite?

As I understand what is being said, I must play a character the way others want, not my preferred method, by rushing a character to 50, bypassing the majority of the parts of the game that I enjoy, just so I can have a snowball's chance that I'll somehow obtain 15,000 planarite on all my characters over the next ~month?

Am I asking that I wish to be insta-gratified by being handed out items?
Not in any way, shape or form.

What I, and based upon others responses that are in nearly the same situation as myself, is that level appropriate means are accessible so that by stretching ourselves in our preferred playing style we can attain a "fluff" (the mount) item. Without having to perform the typical response (extrapolated from the responses in this thread) of "power level a char to 50, mooch off of others (as we all know a brand new power leveled 50 cannot handle anything in EI), and then convert that illgotten ISS into planarite." Of which I can now send to my characters that I actually enjoy adventuring with for the "fluff" mount.

I went back and re-looked through the thread and I found the response from ExcelsiorH, that we can forgo (by deleting) the Medic quest, and hope the next day it's not offered to us again. It still seems kinda silly to limit the playing to field to "if you're not 50, get to 50 by hook or by crook" so you can participate fully in a world event. Instead of just providing the same amount of dailies to all levels that are offered to max leveled characters.

[elenny]

Disadvantageous. FTFY.

[TheGrinnz]

Based upon a number of replies to the Original Poster, and a few others as well, I've come up with the following 2 main points:

· With my highest level character being 31, I'll get enough level appropriate Stones from doing invasions?
· In no time at all doing lvl 30-ish rifts/invasions I'll have 15,000 planarite?

As I understand what is being said, I must play a character the way others want, not my preferred method, by rushing a character to 50, bypassing the majority of the parts of the game that I enjoy, just so I can have a snowball's chance that I'll somehow obtain 15,000 planarite on all my characters over the next ~month?

Am I asking that I wish to be insta-gratified by being handed out items?
Not in any way, shape or form.

What I, and based upon others responses that are in nearly the same situation as myself, is that level appropriate means are accessible so that by stretching ourselves in our preferred playing style we can attain a "fluff" (the mount) item. Without having to perform the typical response (extrapolated from the responses in this thread) of "power level a char to 50, mooch off of others (as we all know a brand new power leveled 50 cannot handle anything in EI), and then convert that illgotten ISS into planarite." Of which I can now send to my characters that I actually enjoy adventuring with for the "fluff" mount.

I went back and re-looked through the thread and I found the response from ExcelsiorH, that we can forgo (by deleting) the Medic quest, and hope the next day it's not offered to us again. It still seems kinda silly to limit the playing to field to "if you're not 50, get to 50 by hook or by crook" so you can participate fully in a world event. Instead of just providing the same amount of dailies to all levels that are offered to max leveled characters.

There is a lot of content that you can't do until you're level 50, including world event components. It's nothing new.

[Niphridil]

There is a lot of content that you can't do until you're level 50, including world event components. It's nothing new.

I bet it's safe to assume that most everyone understands there's content (dungeons, raids, quests, etc.) that a character cannot perform until they have attained the appropriate level. We're not talking about that. We're discussing the disparity in the number of quests that are only available to those of max level, to those not of max level.

As a max level character, you always have access to the 3 dailies. As a not max level character, they do not have access to the same amount of dailies (unless they get lucky and are not offered the medic one). That's the part that's disheartening and places the lower levels at a disadvantage. While the amount of quests end up being the same, the lower level characters now have to do more days of dailies to attain the same result.

All that is being asked is that all characters, of any level, be offered the same number of attainable quests per day. Wouldn't just removing the medic one from the pool of daily quests be the most logical move for a lower level character, so that everyone has 3 attainable quests each day?

Edit: Removed a few errors the typo-gremlins introduced.

[TheGrinnz]

I bet it's safe to assume that most everyone understands there's content (dungeons, raids, quests, etc.) that a character cannot perform until they have attained the appropriate level. We're not talking about that. We're discussing the disparity in the number of quests that are only available to those of max level, to those not of max level.

That is the same discussion, it would be incredibly contrived to have quests that lower levels can do and max levels can't.

[Hawkmoon0028]

I log back to this thread to find even more of the same QQ. All these people talking about getting 15k planarite should spend far less time in the forum- they'd probably be level 50 by now, and then they too, could sit back and /facepalm at the level of stupidity here.

Here's another pro tip: This game is geared around, and aimed at, level 50 players. Everything up to level 50 is simply an extended introduction to the class system, dungeon and combat mechanics, and the like. Do you really think it's just a lapse in judgement or foresight on Trion's part that all of the new content is aimed at endgame players?

Many "casual" players report that with an average of 2 hours of gameplay per day, they reached level 50 in approximately 2 weeks. By that same logic, the people who are currently level 28-30ish that are QQing in this thread could easily hit 50 and bang out 15k planarite well before the event ends.

Again, I submit: stop asking for a handout. And yes, asking Trion to make things easier for "your level" is still asking for a handout. Perhaps take a crack at playing the game as intended? You know, the whole 'level up, progression' thing? You may have heard about it in passing....

[Chaosoul]

Hey all - hopefully I can offer some help on this.

* The quest to collect 500 ingots should contribute to the quest to do 8 dailies - but that is targeted for level 50's, you'll notice it gives out Eternal Crystallized Insight which only gives AAXP. It was added as a currency sink for high level players who didn't want/need anything from the merchant.

* As for the medic daily, yes - the ability is priced very high for some players, but we wanted to highlight all of the ascended powers available to players. But if you can't afford it right now, that is not the only daily offered by that quest giver. If you keep the quest on you, you won't see him offer another until it's done, but if you drop the quest, he will offer a random new one the next day.

The quest to collect 500 Ingots did *not* contribute to the 8 dailies. When I commented about it in 50 chat, I was told the dailies only counted "expert" quests, which didn't make any sense to me.

Anyway, just letting you know. As of yesterday, that quest didn't count on the 8 dailies. 500 ingots, whoooosh!

[Kantazo]

First place, no one is asking for a handout Mr level 50, what we are asking for is for the same freaking dailies we had before 1.8, because they were eliminated, right now the only dailies are for level 50, we want the dailies for lower levels to be placed back into the game;

We are not asking for the level 50 dailies to be dumb down to serve us, because like someone mentioned before, the items you get for finishing those dailies that they have in place right now are more oriented towards level 50 players.

So please dont patronize us and dont become a fanboi, we are not asking for handouts or dumb downs we are asking for dailies that are for levels 1-49

[Machiko_Naguchi]

15k planarite is one houre in ember island onslaught ...

Ah, no.

/10 char

[Amethyriel]

I log back to this thread to find even more of the same QQ. All these people talking about getting 15k planarite should spend far less time in the forum- they'd probably be level 50 by now, and then they too, could sit back and /facepalm at the level of stupidity here.

Here's another pro tip: This game is geared around, and aimed at, level 50 players. Everything up to level 50 is simply an extended introduction to the class system, dungeon and combat mechanics, and the like. Do you really think it's just a lapse in judgement or foresight on Trion's part that all of the new content is aimed at endgame players?

Many "casual" players report that with an average of 2 hours of gameplay per day, they reached level 50 in approximately 2 weeks. By that same logic, the people who are currently level 28-30ish that are QQing in this thread could easily hit 50 and bang out 15k planarite well before the event ends.

Again, I submit: stop asking for a handout. And yes, asking Trion to make things easier for "your level" is still asking for a handout. Perhaps take a crack at playing the game as intended? You know, the whole 'level up, progression' thing? You may have heard about it in passing....

1. first of all, many of us have 50s. i even mentioned alts but that has gone over your head. It's always the terrible mass of unskilled players that feel that only they should be entitled to something, bearing no other players in mind but themselves and their playstyle.

2. and even if some dont have 50s, why is it causing you so much pain if lower levels could fully participate in the event without some big hurdles? i think i answered my question already in 1.

and you know, trion responded already and the other random dailies, beside the medic, are low level
friendly. what are you gonna do about it? You do nothing, because trion and i think alike.