Dear Trion... a bit about naming policies...

[ilex011]

As a recent thread expressed, this is our *last* bastion of RP. As such, we expect (idealistically, admittedly) people to abide by naming policies. We report players whose names are really out of synch, but we need your help in this. We need you to interact more with our community on Faeblight so you can see for yourselves how it's degraded since you announced it as a "recommended" shard. This was not a beneficial move on your part. For us it wasn't anyway.

Don't get me wrong- I don't want to be unwelcoming to those who are xferring in. We are fortunate to have a large community. We just need a little of your help in maintaining the quality of it.

I couldn't care less if people don't RP. Hell, *I* don't actively RP, just dabble a little; but if someone chooses to come to an RP shard, they should be expected to respect the inherent social climate. I enjoy being on an RP shard for the general higher level of maturity (idealistically again), and the immersion in lore that you just don't really get on an PvE server.

So, Trion, please help us out here. Overall we tend to be warm and friendly to newcomers. We like newcomers. We don't like people who come here with stupid names that don't fit the RP shard. So I politely request, that if we report a name, and it's a valid, obvious breach of naming, please take it seriously and investigate. We understand you have limited resources for many reasons. You can't be everywhere all the time, we know. But please, try to maintain more of an active presence on our shard and please *listen* to us if a name is just plain ridiculous. I am thinking of one in particular which was leet-spelled. I reported, and a week later they were still there with the same name. That's just an example.

Thank you for taking the time to read this and thank you for overall an awesome game. And thanks to the general community of Faeblight who really are trying to maintain cohesion in the community.

Love,

Ilexx and her somewhat trusty minion Expendable

[Remissus]

My name is Remissus and I approve of this message. :P


In all seriousness though, yes. Anyone claiming that Faeblight's community has not degraded at all since we became 'recommended' is blind. Are all newcomers to be blamed? Certainly not- Many are friendly, outgoing members of the community. But some are definitely making this server worse for their presence, and think they can treat Faeblight like any other PVE server. Trion needs to support us NOW if we are to save the good that we still possess.

[Gwendolan]

Agreed. Of all the Shards to become recommended, it had to be the last and only RP shard. The names need to go. I can understand if the new transfers weren't aware of the naming policies, but they can either change their name or leave.

[Persefani]

I support this message. When people transfer to this server to join Sacred Fire, we do enforce naming policies and they change them to be with us. There is no excuse for a bad name from a transfer, it was easy to change it, it was a choice not to.

[Bragi]

y'know..kinda lame on my part, but the reason I play on RP servers, in alot of games, is not actually to RP, but for me it is about names of characters...Don't get me wrong, I read all the lore, and i love to follow the story lines,,,but when i found out we were going to be defiants at launce, (something I did not like, but my old guild wanted to do..I am the only one left playing btw..) I rushed to try and get a couple of names I thought would fit...Yhankfully I got 1 (Hassan, for my Bahmi warrior) and I landed Vecna for my my main...after Estrael closed, I lost most of my name..

I guess what I am saying, is...I choose RP servers because it seems like an older crowd, and one more into the game, then people with names like...and i saw this one..Ikillz****, or stupid guild names like ( again saw( chikz with ****z)

I might be a bit older, and I am so glad I found a great guild when all my real life friends moved to different games..


Dagon of Dark Paradigm

[Shyhalu]

I think that their attentions are better spent on the continuing bot issues.. clearly their resources are spread too thin as it is.. so I reckon this is low down on the priority list.

[Iri]

Am I allowed to disbelieve your premise that the quality community and social climate on Faeblight is/are linked to RP, and further, this means that Trion needs to enforce an RP atmosphere?

I mean, don't get me wrong... I wish Trion would sit on some of the names floating around. But your justification for the request is just awful.

You don't like the fact that people are coming to your server and behaving in ways of which you don't approve. Got it. And because of that, and your personal conclusion that RP is what preserves a good community, as opposed to non-RP activities (which, it may be fairly pointed out, comprise most of the game for most of the people who play the game, on any server), you've concluded that Trion needs to step in and take action in order to preserve the quality of the social community.

I'd like to remind you that Trion's stated policy, from before there were shards, much less RP shards, has been that there would be no special support for RP shards. They would have the RP tag, and that's it. No code of conduct beyond what's applicable to every server, no rules or regulations to enforce an RP atmosphere... just the name. And to the best of my knowledge, that's exactly what they've done.

The community spirit here on Faeblight has nothing to do with enforced regulations by Trion - never has, and frankly, it never will, even if Trion does respond to your request and start actively regulating player behavior on this shard more than any other. The community spirit that you are so indiscriminately attempting to protect is not something that you can enforce. It's the result of work by community members to maintain a welcoming and friendly attitude, inviting more people to feel like they are members of a larger shard community, and by giving them a share in that community, encouraging them in turn to protect and extend it.

Threads like this are incredibly counter-productive, and I'd like to request that in the future, when you start to feel indignant and think about asking a higher power to take a hand, that you first stop and consider whether there's anything that *you* can do instead.

[Even]

Am I allowed to disbelieve your premise that the quality community and social climate on Faeblight is/are linked to RP, and further, this means that Trion needs to enforce an RP atmosphere?

I mean, don't get me wrong... I wish Trion would sit on some of the names floating around. But your justification for the request is just awful.

You don't like the fact that people are coming to your server and behaving in ways of which you don't approve. Got it. And because of that, and your personal conclusion that RP is what preserves a good community, as opposed to non-RP activities (which, it may be fairly pointed out, comprise most of the game for most of the people who play the game, on any server), you've concluded that Trion needs to step in and take action in order to preserve the quality of the social community.

I'd like to remind you that Trion's stated policy, from before there were shards, much less RP shards, has been that there would be no special support for RP shards. They would have the RP tag, and that's it. No code of conduct beyond what's applicable to every server, no rules or regulations to enforce an RP atmosphere... just the name. And to the best of my knowledge, that's exactly what they've done.

The community spirit here on Faeblight has nothing to do with enforced regulations by Trion - never has, and frankly, it never will, even if Trion does respond to your request and start actively regulating player behavior on this shard more than any other. The community spirit that you are so indiscriminately attempting to protect is not something that you can enforce. It's the result of work by community members to maintain a welcoming and friendly attitude, inviting more people to feel like they are members of a larger shard community, and by giving them a share in that community, encouraging them in turn to protect and extend it.

Threads like this are incredibly counter-productive, and I'd like to request that in the future, when you start to feel indignant and think about asking a higher power to take a hand, that you first stop and consider whether there's anything that *you* can do instead.

Just a quick fyi here . . . yes there is no different policy for the RP shard however . . . there is a naming policy that is still abused. So whether you think it is a RP issue or not is irrelevant. I could really care less about the names people choose. I would like a more mature community however. I have placed so many people in the last week on ignore for racist or homophobic talk in 50 chat I feel like its an entirely different server.

Only reasons I dont post to get something done is

1. They wont do anything.

2. Ignore button works wonders

[Galibier]

The problem is rules are rules. If rules are not enforced they should be removed. In this case, to many, the naming convention on Faeblight is important. Believe it or not A LOT of players go to RP servers because they either want to RP or because they want immersion and figure people RPing around them will enhance the immersion. Faeblight is now the ONLY home for these players and this does create an obligation of sorts. Don't want to be bothered with naming conventions there are other servers out there, every other server if we are honest, where they do not exist. It is childish imo to go somewhere where Hartsman himself put out the rule and theb ***** about it. Be an educated consumer and go to a server with rule sets you like. Yeah maybe there the server firsts won't be as easy ;) but the rules will be more to your liking.

Btw the ;) was there to point out I am not disparaging that idea. Server firsts is a valid metric to add to the list when looking to move servers imo. It is just part of a list though so you need to take the good with the bad where ever you land.

[Iri]

Just a quick fyi here . . . yes there is no different policy for the RP shard however . . . there is a naming policy that is still abused. So whether you think it is a RP issue or not is irrelevant. I could really care less about the names people choose. I would like a more mature community however. I have placed so many people in the last week on ignore for racist or homophobic talk in 50 chat I feel like its an entirely different server.

Only reasons I dont post to get something done is

1. They wont do anything.

2. Ignore button works wonders

So anxious to uphold the naming policy that you ran right by the point of my post...

[Maelystra]

Am I allowed to disbelieve your premise that the quality community and social climate on Faeblight is/are linked to RP, and further, this means that Trion needs to enforce an RP atmosphere?

I mean, don't get me wrong... I wish Trion would sit on some of the names floating around. But your justification for the request is just awful.

You don't like the fact that people are coming to your server and behaving in ways of which you don't approve. Got it. And because of that, and your personal conclusion that RP is what preserves a good community, as opposed to non-RP activities (which, it may be fairly pointed out, comprise most of the game for most of the people who play the game, on any server), you've concluded that Trion needs to step in and take action in order to preserve the quality of the social community.

I'd like to remind you that Trion's stated policy, from before there were shards, much less RP shards, has been that there would be no special support for RP shards. They would have the RP tag, and that's it. No code of conduct beyond what's applicable to every server, no rules or regulations to enforce an RP atmosphere... just the name. And to the best of my knowledge, that's exactly what they've done.

The community spirit here on Faeblight has nothing to do with enforced regulations by Trion - never has, and frankly, it never will, even if Trion does respond to your request and start actively regulating player behavior on this shard more than any other. The community spirit that you are so indiscriminately attempting to protect is not something that you can enforce. It's the result of work by community members to maintain a welcoming and friendly attitude, inviting more people to feel like they are members of a larger shard community, and by giving them a share in that community, encouraging them in turn to protect and extend it.

Threads like this are incredibly counter-productive, and I'd like to request that in the future, when you start to feel indignant and think about asking a higher power to take a hand, that you first stop and consider whether there's anything that *you* can do instead.

Excuse me but Trion forced me to change one of my toon names because it was deemed to not 'meet RP naming standards.' So YES Trion does, indeed, keep an eye on the RP shard and complaints about it, over and above the restrictions already listed in the TOU.

11. A. Rules Related to Usernames and Guild Designations

Each user will either select a character name or allow the Service to automatically select a character
name at random. Additionally, users may form "guilds" and such guilds will be required to choose a name for the guild. When you choose a character name, create a guild, or otherwise create a label that can be seen by other players using the Game or the Service, you must abide by the following guidelines as well as the rules of common decency. If Trion finds such a label to be offensive or improper, it may, in its sole and absolute discretion, change the name, remove the label, and/or suspend or terminate your use of the Service.

In particular, you may not use any name:

i. Belonging to another person with the intent to impersonate that person, including without limitation a "Game Master" or any other employee or agent of Trion;

ii. That incorporates vulgar language or which are otherwise offensive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;

iii. Subject to the rights of any other person or entity without written authorization from that person or entity;

iv. That belongs to a popular culture figure, celebrity, or media personality;

v. That is, contains, or is substantially similar to a trademark or service mark, whether registered or

not;

vi. Belonging to any religious figure or deity;

vii. Taken from Trion's Game(s);

viii. Related to drugs, sex, alcohol, or criminal activity;

ix. Comprised of partial or complete sentence (e.g., "Getpwned", "Luvtodance", etc);

x. Comprised of gibberish (e.g., "Qwerty", "Asdfasdf", "Xyzpdq");

xi. Referring to pop culture icons or personas (e.g. "McLovin", "Kyle Broflovski", "Catwoman");

xii That utilizes "Leet" or "Dudespeak" (e.g., "Roflmao", "Roxxurboxx", "Lolzumad"); or

xiii. That incorporates titles. For purposes of this subsection, "titles" shall include without
limitation 'rank' titles (e.g., "General Chow," or “Captain Kangaroo”), monarchist or fantasy titles
(e.g., "KingLoko", "LordPauleyC"), and religious titles (e.g., "ThePope," or "Reverend Run").

You may not use a misspelling or an alternative spelling to circumvent the name restrictions listed above, nor can you have a "first" and "last" name that, when combined, violate the above name restrictions.

Utilizing any name option to harass or disrupt another individual, group or guild will result in
disciplinary action taken with respect to the offending account(s) and may result in character deletion.

Accounts which have characters deleted due to a violation of this policy are not eligible for
reimbursement privileges.

[Remissus]

Am I allowed to disbelieve your premise that the quality community and social climate on Faeblight is/are linked to RP, and further, this means that Trion needs to enforce an RP atmosphere?

I mean, don't get me wrong... I wish Trion would sit on some of the names floating around. But your justification for the request is just awful.

You don't like the fact that people are coming to your server and behaving in ways of which you don't approve. Got it. And because of that, and your personal conclusion that RP is what preserves a good community, as opposed to non-RP activities (which, it may be fairly pointed out, comprise most of the game for most of the people who play the game, on any server), you've concluded that Trion needs to step in and take action in order to preserve the quality of the social community.

I'd like to remind you that Trion's stated policy, from before there were shards, much less RP shards, has been that there would be no special support for RP shards. They would have the RP tag, and that's it. No code of conduct beyond what's applicable to every server, no rules or regulations to enforce an RP atmosphere... just the name. And to the best of my knowledge, that's exactly what they've done.

The community spirit here on Faeblight has nothing to do with enforced regulations by Trion - never has, and frankly, it never will, even if Trion does respond to your request and start actively regulating player behavior on this shard more than any other. The community spirit that you are so indiscriminately attempting to protect is not something that you can enforce. It's the result of work by community members to maintain a welcoming and friendly attitude, inviting more people to feel like they are members of a larger shard community, and by giving them a share in that community, encouraging them in turn to protect and extend it.

Threads like this are incredibly counter-productive, and I'd like to request that in the future, when you start to feel indignant and think about asking a higher power to take a hand, that you first stop and consider whether there's anything that *you* can do instead.

-YOUR- entire premise of this post is the flawed one, actually. Did you even seriously read the OP's post? No one is claiming that RPers are superior to other playstyles. We are saying that the huge influx of population has, naturally, brought in a lot of people who do not care about the community. And, like it or not, this is an RP server and those who choose to RP should not be griefed and laughed off their own server.

We want Trion to enforce the naming rule. Given that the very people who ARE trolling, and griefing, and generally being jerks to everyone else on Faeblight often use leetspeak names, this could help us start to regain what Faeblight once had: An RP shard where people were cool to one another for the large part, and where RPers could actually play their preferred playstyle without harassment.

[Persefani]

On May 6, 2011 Scott Hartsman came out and said there are rules in place for names on an RP Server. He heard the outcry from the RP community, and as a self proclaimed RPer, and the last time I checked, the guy running the show, he came out with this post.

We will be implementing a modified version of the original rules to the naming policy for Roleplay Servers only.

<Rest of the post states the rules>

Trion doesn't seem to be the type of game company to go back on their published information, so yes, I still expect it to be addressed by the CS team, which is paid to deal with CS issues, not graphical, sound, mechanics issue. Different department, different overhead.

That is the ground I stand on for my claim to change, and it seems pretty damn solid.

[ilex011]

Am I allowed to disbelieve your premise that the quality community and social climate on Faeblight is/are linked to RP, and further, this means that Trion needs to enforce an RP atmosphere?

Re-read what I said:

"I couldn't care less if people don't RP. Hell, *I* don't actively RP, just dabble a little; but if someone chooses to come to an RP shard, they should be expected to respect the inherent social climate"


Furthermore, others have addressed your post so I won't trouble myself to do so, especially when it has been done so well. Thanks all, who understood my post and elaborated upon it.

[Telnedra]

y'know..kinda lame on my part, but the reason I play on RP servers, in alot of games, is not actually to RP, but for me it is about names of characters...Don't get me wrong, I read all the lore, and i love to follow the story lines,,,but when i found out we were going to be defiants at launce, (something I did not like, but my old guild wanted to do..I am the only one left playing btw..) I rushed to try and get a couple of names I thought would fit...Yhankfully I got 1 (Hassan, for my Bahmi warrior) and I landed Vecna for my my main...after Estrael closed, I lost most of my name..

I guess what I am saying, is...I choose RP servers because it seems like an older crowd, and one more into the game, then people with names like...and i saw this one..Ikillz****, or stupid guild names like ( again saw( chikz with ****z)

I might be a bit older, and I am so glad I found a great guild when all my real life friends moved to different games..


Dagon of Dark Paradigm

*waves to guildie*