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    Quote Originally Posted by Zahne View Post
    PVP gear needs to be completely removed from the PVE game and vice versa.
    Nah make them the same

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    ->Remove hit from pvp weapons
    ->Hit modifier ala Akylios style sets hit in instanced (or all) pvp to 100 regardless of gear
    ->QQ stops (mostly)
    Last edited by Kryoz; 06-18-2012 at 04:57 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dementic View Post
    ->Remove hit from pvp weapons
    ->Hit modifier ala Akylios style sets hit in instanced (or all) pvp to 100 regardless of gear
    ->QQ stops (mostly)
    wow its that simple? why didn't the devs think of that.... wth are we paying them for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyzyx View Post
    Don't add hit to pvp weapons.

    Went through this in HK where everyone had to grind to rank 8 to be competitive. I don't want to tell my guildies or potential recruits that they have to have pvp to rank 50 or whatever to join my raid/guild.
    Sure I'm understanding and willing to go with this as long as ALL PVE GEAR is PENALIZED in PVP by losing at least HALF OF THEIR STATS WHEN USED IN PVP.

    Make that happen and I'll be more then happy to see PVP weapons lose hit.
    Last edited by Noctisx; 06-18-2012 at 07:52 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dementic View Post
    ->Remove hit from pvp weapons
    ->Hit modifier ala Akylios style sets hit in instanced (or all) pvp to 100 regardless of gear
    ->QQ stops (mostly)
    Great idea.

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    When time allows I'll be looking at the issue with the class guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyzyx View Post
    Don't add hit to pvp weapons.

    Went through this in HK where everyone had to grind to rank 8 to be competitive. I don't want to tell my guildies or potential recruits that they have to have pvp to rank 50 or whatever to join my raid/guild.
    So don't tell them that.
    Only bad teams need high prerequisites to compensate for low potency.

    They're never going to design the game so that you lose if you don't and you win if you do. If you lose without it, you'd lose with it, and if you win with it, you'd win without it.
    It's in your head. Ignore the voice in your head telling you to require PA levels and PVP grinding for PVE, and things will be fine.

    Trion is giving you the option to choose poorly, and you're choosing poorly. Don't require it. Just forget it and go on.
    You can't ask Trion to remove every decision that you indicate you're about to get wrong, to make things right.

    Just make it right in the first place.
    Last edited by PFalcon; 06-18-2012 at 08:55 PM.

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    Many people are discussing adding valor to pve gear. I don't know if that is quite the same.

    +hit on pvp weapons is just a bad decision. Period.

    There are many easy fixes that could be done that would leave all players satisfied.

    +hit like stat called +accuracy or something that acts as +hit in only pvp
    Passive +hit added in warfronts
    Reduction of dodge/parry/block/deflect chance in pvp so that +hit is not useful in pvp
    Adding +hit to the synergy crystal instead of weapons.
    Last edited by Zyzyx; 06-20-2012 at 01:16 PM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daglar View Post
    When time allows I'll be looking at the issue with the class guys.

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    The only problem lies in PvE'ers wanting to use PvP gear as a shortcut to content. This is not a requirement, it is an option, one that even WoW removed. So let's stop saying that Trion is making life hard for raiders by having desirable PvP gear. Trion has catered to the PvE crowd time and time again, just so they can maintain their collective PvEpeen. How many PvP servers are left? Enough is enough, make PvP gear BiS for PvP or remove PvE gear from WF's and conquest.
    Last edited by Arcshayde; 06-20-2012 at 01:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcshayde View Post
    The only problem
    Whatever this one magical problem is, shortsightedness isn't going to solve it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cammyle View Post
    Whatever this one magical problem is, shortsightedness isn't going to solve it.
    Shortsightedness is PvP gear being substandard for PvP. It's been shortsighted for the last 18months. PvE content is valued more than PvP content in Rift. Well how about PvE'ers start paying $19.99/month, since they get the best of both worlds for playing in one.
    Last edited by Arcshayde; 06-20-2012 at 01:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcshayde View Post
    Shortsightedness is PvP gear being substandard for PvP. It's been shortsighted for the last 18months. PvE content is valued more than PvP content in Rift. Well how about PvE'ers start paying $19.99/month, since they get the best of both worlds for playing in one.
    If you had actually read this thread before blabbering out nonsense you would have seen many people posting solutions to this problem, as well as solutions to problems you seem to have no idea even exist. Or at least you don't seem to care about them.
    Last edited by Cammyle; 06-20-2012 at 01:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyzyx View Post
    Many people are discussing adding valor to pve gear. I don't know if that is quite the same.

    +hit on pvp weapons is just a bad decision. Period.

    There are many easy fixes that could be done that would leave all players satisfied.

    +hit like stat called +accuracy or something that acts as +hit in only pvp
    Passive +hit added in warfronts
    Reduction of dodge/parry/block/deflect chance in pvp so that +hit is not useful in pvp
    Adding +hit to the synergy crystal instead of weapons.
    Still leaves raid gear BiS for PvP.

    0/10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Credo View Post
    Still leaves raid gear BiS for PvP.

    0/10
    That is exactly his points. Most PvErs believe that just because they killed a dragon they should be superior to all PvPers. His secret agenda is pretty pathetic, but everything he posts is a pretty pathetic attempt to make himself more powerful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cammyle View Post
    If you had actually read this thread before blabbering out nonsense you would have seen many people posting solutions to this problem, as well as solutions to problems you seem to have no idea even exist. Or at least you don't seem to care about them.
    Loosely translates to: "I only want to do PvE, so that should be the best gear in the entire game." It's been said before but bears repeating: Pvp'ers don't want better PvP gear to kill your precious dragons, they just want it to kill you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcshayde View Post
    Loosely translates to: "I only want to do PvE, so that should be the best gear in the entire game." It's been said before but bears repeating: Pvp'ers don't want better PvP gear to kill your precious dragons, they just want it to kill you.
    If you only want pvp gear for pvp purposes then you don't need +hit on pvp gear.

    There are several serious options on the table we could be discussing ,but so far the pvp players posting in this thread don't seem concerned about those. They just seem to have some secret agenda like fates said to be better in pve or skip raid tiers or whatever. It's pathetic.

    I could really care less about pve gear in pvp. This thread is about pvp gear in pve. Please refrain from posting about different topics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daglar View Post
    When time allows I'll be looking at the issue with the class guys.

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