PvE gear in PvP I'm tired of it.

[Laban of C O]

It's funny you mention folks not rolling in straight pvp gear. I tried it for ****s and giggles in Black Garden. Raid Ranger build, with mix of ID/HK gear... 50 total valor. 28 KB/0 deaths is my best 0 death ratio so far. I had a few that got a touch higher, 30 or so kills, but I had deaths. Not even the kiting crap you can do as a MM hah. :P Just good old ranged nuking via huge dps advantage. It felt a little dirty. Yeah, generally I run a mix of pvp/(ID/HK) gear. I wasn't planning to use the P50 pvp weapons before, but I figured I'd buy them for ****s and giggles. Now I'll save the favor and buy more recon vials and wrath stones.

[Fryday]

Everyone should have the same gear, spec, and playstyle! Hell, Each player should be able to 1v3,4,5,6,raid with 1% health left and 0 mana. I want Equality!

#voteNerd4prez

[Bhrawn]

I'm really tired of see Raid gear being the best in everything. It is REALLY getting annoying that there is such an obvious and glaring difference in the gear.

Welcome to PvP in a PvE focused game!

[HannonHellbringer]

Welcome to PvP in a PvE focused game!

Flimble is right, if Trion wants to change things around, they need to stop putting most of their focus on Raiders. I don't know where Raiders get this high and mighty additude, but it needs to stop. The fact that their gear is BiS for everything is just HORRIBLE design and raiders jump on anyone like a bunch of rabid piranha when change is suggested.

[Flashmemory]

It's funny you mention folks not rolling in straight pvp gear. I tried it for ****s and giggles in Black Garden. Raid Ranger build, with mix of ID/HK gear... 50 total valor. 28 KB/0 deaths is my best 0 death ratio so far. I had a few that got a touch higher, 30 or so kills, but I had deaths. Not even the kiting crap you can do as a MM hah. :P Just good old ranged nuking via huge dps advantage. It felt a little dirty. Yeah, generally I run a mix of pvp/(ID/HK) gear. I wasn't planning to use the P50 pvp weapons before, but I figured I'd buy them for ****s and giggles. Now I'll save the favor and buy more recon vials and wrath stones.

I did that in port scion today. I just wanted to do my daily and didnt bother to switch off to pvp spec. So I went full 51/15 ranger and topped KBs. I did MM with gear switch on bridge to spam fan out with the useless crystal and finally found a good use for it. LOL. Thing about these specs even if you were in full pvp gear you will still die nearly as fast as if you were in full pve gear. There are some specs that pvp gear work well with..like /rs specs but it is completely useless in straight dps specs.

[Antigonos]

well you played against bads, you could go in naked prbly and still rule the wf ...

i kill 50-80 pve geared players like you in a scion wf ...

[Silentstorm]

lol i wish i would roll up on a 50 valor rogue i'd destroy you before you built 2 points lol.........

[V1rul3n7]

Flimble is right, if Trion wants to change things around, they need to stop putting most of their focus on Raiders. I don't know where Raiders get this high and mighty additude, but it needs to stop. The fact that their gear is BiS for everything is just HORRIBLE design and raiders jump on anyone like a bunch of rabid piranha when change is suggested.

Its probably a lot cheaper for Trion as a company to produce PvE content.

[V1rul3n7]

And for the record PvE gear is actually WAY better than Valor Gear.

But the difference is only really noticable in specific specs.

The new changes should sort all this out hopefully.. and hopefully they will actually make Elemental Resists meaningful in PvP

I mean whats the point of Ground of Power buffing elemental resists when its stripped so easily by focus?, thats a wasted point in pyro right there.

Same applies to the 3 points in Archon for their resistance buff, then add in the other 9 points dedicated to purely mana regeneration and thats 12/66 points totally wasted for PvP.

[ChrisN]

My mantra has always been "baby steps".
We've got +hit on PVP gear, which is more like one giant leap for mankind rather than a baby step.
The stats have been equalized, so ID weapons have the same DPS and effective AP/SP as PVP epics of the same tier. That's great in it's own right.

The next stop is adding PVP synergy crystal effects, procs, and relics.
We're getting there, but give it time.

I want relic PvP gear...

[Arcshayde]

I want relic PvP gear...

Warhammer had these, and a good upgrade system, with set bonuses on pvp armor. I'm surprised Gersh hasn't carried this over. Another option, stated numerous times, would be to unlock set bonuses via the synergy crystal. Maybe 2-piece bonus at 40 and 4-piece at 50.

[Normus]

Warhammer had these, and a good upgrade system, with set bonuses on pvp armor. I'm surprised Gersh hasn't carried this over. Another option, stated numerous times, would be to unlock set bonuses via the synergy crystal. Maybe 2-piece bonus at 40 and 4-piece at 50.

The PVP gear does have 2 Crystals that are based on rank at R31 and R40, BTW it a grind just to get the crystal.

[vexare]

It may be BiS if you are left alone in the back of a pack to ranged dps at will and don't have to worry much about getting hit. However the first time you find yourself 1v1 you will die. Valor negates ~50% damage right off the top, and your relic gear doesn't provide twice the dps that my valor gear does to make up the differenece in the dps race.

[Dasmani]

I played Defilemancer in a warfront with my pve gear. I ran around in circles tab targeting and throwing DoTs. I had second highest killing blows. What?

[redrox]

My opinion on this is that certain class's bennefit more then others to use 4 piece hk with syn crystal then others in pvp. I.e. Rogues and Wars in dps builds can do an extremely heavier amount of damage with 4 piece hk crystal bonus some just need the 2 piece bonus depends the build. I don't care if you want to wear gear with less valor thats fine, its the syn crystal that makes it imbalancing imo. So remove hk crystals from pvp not the armor.