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    Default Cool Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by yoaktown View Post
    I am not that fond of the idea of a ranged dps class for warrior...BUT...if they it comes in the form of shields with spears to throw....SIGN ME UP! That would be so great! Kinda like warden from LOTRO but not be so complicated to play. Love the idea one poster had of a hoplite (or how ever you spell that).
    That would be a cool calling.. a "Charging" style lancer or hoplite phalanx. lets see that would tie in with Champion/Warlord/Beastmaster/Reaver/Paladin/VK.. Wouldn't work so well with paragon and riftblade though.. (rift could fit power wise but not theme wise..)

    Though Ideally I think it should be something ties Paragon in better with rest of the souls..

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    glad its not fluff ill just tune out the rumor mill and wait for the concrete

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daglar View Post
    I can give you the callings they belong to without any names of the actual souls. Let's see... warrior, rogue, mage, and cleric! In all seriousness I won't be dropping any hints here yet - information will trickle out when its the right time to share it.

    I can assure you however that we know exactly what the classes are and if you are inside the Trion offices you can even play large chunks of them. The tweaks to existing classes are also looking great. Everything will get tweaked, refined, and playtested quite a bit more before they are live.

    Daglar
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    Great to here you're so far along on this, can't wait.

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    Warrior - Deathknight/Shadowknight

    Cleric - Priest

    Mage - Illusionist

    Rogue - Monk

    -or-

    Warrior - Healer/Support
    Cleric - DPS
    Mage - Tank
    Rogue - Healer
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    I hope it's something exotic for Cleric, maybe something with an arabian or asian flavor !

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    I would love to see the rogue soul being a monk and the warrior soul being a beserker, but that is just me.

    I love speculation not straight answers so great reply Mr. Dagler
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    Holy pally

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    Rogues - Dual Pistols
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    I hope they just go crazy with this and give every Calling at least one soul for every Role. Seems like balance would be much easier.

    Give Clerics a Support soul
    Give Warriors a Heal soul (and turn Warlord into a Support soul)
    Give Rogues a Heal soul
    Give Mages a Tank soul.


    That would make me happiest. It would finally fill Trion's initial promise of being able to play how you want, and think of all the builds you could make...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nocks View Post
    I hope they just go crazy with this and give every Calling at least one soul for every Role. Seems like balance would be much easier.

    Give Clerics a Support soul
    Give Warriors a Heal soul (and turn Warlord into a Support soul)
    Give Rogues a Heal soul
    Give Mages a Tank soul.


    That would make me happiest. It would finally fill Trion's initial promise of being able to play how you want, and think of all the builds you could make...
    I agree. Giving every class the ability to do all 4 types of skills (Tank, Heal, Damage, Support) would be the best thing they could do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daglar View Post
    I can give you the callings they belong to without any names of the actual souls. Let's see... warrior, rogue, mage, and cleric! In all seriousness I won't be dropping any hints here yet - information will trickle out when its the right time to share it.

    I can assure you however that we know exactly what the classes are and if you are inside the Trion offices you can even play large chunks of them. The tweaks to existing classes are also looking great. Everything will get tweaked, refined, and playtested quite a bit more before they are live.

    Daglar
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    Just make sure to give warriors laser beams.

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    Warrior- Ranged DPS or Support
    Rogue- Tank or Heal
    Cleric- Tank or Support
    Mage- Heal or Ranged DPS or Tank(doubt it, Prince Dollin is the only time it's needed)

    But I am in complete agreement with the idea that our current souls need to function before we slap a third arm on the shambling frankenstein we are attempting to breakdance with at the moment.
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    don't care what they give every other soul but for the love of god GIVE WARRIORS A HEALING SOUL so they can shut up already about heals in wfs... there i said it... give 'em heals ... lot's of 'em.. make them the new wardens of old so they can stop complaining about healing... that would make me happy...

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    Other soul possiblities


    Warrior - Templar (healer warrior)
    Mage - Enchanter (battlemage)
    Rogue - Thief (rogues cannot steal something is wrong with this)
    Cleric - Spiritualist (support)
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    Default Some real suggestions

    1st off let me say this, I don't believe every class should do everything. ie: Warriors healing, mages tanking.
    having said that let me say this, Each class should be stand out at a single thing. IMHO Warriors should be best tanks, cleric best healers, mages best ae dps, rogues best single target dps. Each class should have a secondary role that they can perform almost as well as the class that is primarily best. again MHO Warriors single target dps, clerics tank, mages heal, rogues ae dps. Each class should have a support class that is somewhat equally but not exactly capable like the Bard, and Archon.

    So that would require the new warrior and cleric classes both be a support type class (take away the warlord as a tank soul and convert it to a support soul and add a new support specific soul for Clerics)

    Warriors could use some help for ranged dps for those melee prohibited fights. I see this as reworks to Paragon and Riftblade. Something such that they could do say 75-80% of their melee dps. Reworks of those 3 would allow for perhaps a strong dps/tanking soul for those off tank fights that really require part time off tanking. Let's call him the Shield Lord.

    Clerics could get an Enchanter offering shielding, buffs, debuffs, and healing but only on a group level

    Clerics need a rework of the Shaman who dps is dwarfed (get it dwarfed) by that of the warriors and even the druid. And nothing useful for pvp whatsoever. The Purifier needs to have some group capabilities, shielding would be nice. Perhaps a short immunity with 1 or 2 min cool down. And some low point skills that would help the cleric tank would be most welcome. A permabuff that procs a shield when critted.

    Rogues have all they need in souls honestly but Bladedancer Assassin, and Nightblade need to have a serious rework to up their dps levels and flexibility. To play any melee rogue you really need to drop 20 points into Riftstalker for the blinks and that is an issue that holds back the melee rogues. Drop a 6 second CD charge/blink into the melee builds see where that goes. Also a rework of Bard or some other soul to more complement the Riftstalker Tank would be nice.

    As for Mage, well I don't play a mage, but this is my understanding. their single target dps needs to be simplier and ramp much quicker. I am guessing linger dots from attacks would be welcome like the Inquisitor's Sanction Heretic.

    As for pvp warriors need to have no healing debuff, they are lousy with stuns and silences. Mages should be deadly when they have a single target, any target in their cross hairs. Clerics should always be able to buy themselves a bit of time thru healing, but it shouldn't take 4 people to kill anyone ever. Rogues when out of stealth or closed in on a single target should be fatal, at range not so much.

    All pvp ae's should be 50% damage as pve

    That's my suggestions.. and please this time could you just make it perfect right out of the gate and please everyone. Barring that do your best. We appreciate you

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