[DISCUSSION] Make Planar Attunement Experience Universal to Account

[Laban of C O]

Yes, but you're unemployed and living in your parents' basement. What about the rest of us who pay just as much to play but cannot afford to devote 60 hours a week to playing it?

Well, you probably don't have much time for alts anyway right? So... relaaax.

I think making the PA accross the board would be terrible. Folks with the crap ton of alts would be rewarded, and have far more PA than people who run one character (myself). I think that's a bit counter to the feel of the system, stop whining.

[Thorrand]

Well, you probably don't have much time for alts anyway right? So... relaaax.

I think making the PA accross the board would be terrible. Folks with the crap ton of alts would be rewarded, and have far more PA than people who run one character (myself). I think that's a bit counter to the feel of the system, stop whining.

Because you can totally play more than one character on your account at the same time amirite? No one would even group anymore, just roll 20 alts and make their own raid.

[Epinephrine]

Well, you probably don't have much time for alts anyway right? So... relaaax.

I think making the PA accross the board would be terrible. Folks with the crap ton of alts would be rewarded, and have far more PA than people who run one character (myself). I think that's a bit counter to the feel of the system, stop whining.

The only issue with BoA PA is a perceived notion that people with alts will magically receive an unfair advantage. No one is willing to face reality. First off...PA is supposed to be a passive downtime reward to make people feel as though they are always progressing. This is why it should be an Account wide reward for time spent In game past lvl 50. It is not comparable to Tier'd Raid content that can only be run ONCE a week or the dreaded PVP grind...or many other real progression grinds that have to be run on every alt if you want the rewards! In fact, I am willing to bet that I could start a new character right now...lvl it to 50, get it to P40 and Fully HK geared in less time than it would take for a fresh 50 right now to go from no PA lvls to Max PA lvls. This is why people with alts feel screwed....because before PA you could litterally max gear all your alts in the same time that it will now take to max one alts PA. So in essence, the introduction of PA was a nerf to accounts with multiple characters and a buff to accounts with one character.

How about some in game examples.
In my guild the people with the highest PA lvls right now only play 1 character! In fact almost every person I have run into with what I would consider abnormally high PA lvls, only plays 1 character. The real fact of the matter is, atleast from my personal in game experience, people with 1 character tend to have the most time played. People like myself with multiple characters become bored with things quickly and need a change of pace every now and then...hence the leveling of alts to respark interest in the game. Just because you play alts doesn't mean you are going to magically play the game 3x as much as you normally do. It only means that (atleast pre PA) your play time would be split up accordingly. The only change now is that if you want to have any of your characters be competetive you have to spend all your play time on one character. This was not the case pre PA!

Even if PA instantly became BoA and all my alts PA was combined...I would only gain something like 35 PA lvls for a total of about 165....WOW what an advantage! Anywho, the only solution to this problem is to make PA BoA! There is actually one other solution that would solve the problem...remove all raiding/competetive benefits from PA. Only leave things like damage bonus/reduction for Rifts, mount/run/sw speed increase, crafting ****, teleports...yada yada...stuff that is a nice perk but won't make you top the DPS meters lol

[Melodyx]

Who says you need to do any entire journey in any specific time? Other than you.

You are looking not at playing characters who gain PA XP while playing them, but rather you are looking at needing to grind out PA XP on them before you can play them.

This is an error on your part.

"It's not an illusion"
"It's an illusion"


Damned right I'm confuddled.

Well it took 26 pages but I think you're starting to finally understand the discussion. This whole thread is about what's a reasonable amount of time to expect players to sink into the game.

That would be an error, if it was what anybody was actually arguing. Except nobody is making that argument. You keep using logical fallacies to advance your own point of view. It's about being able to play multiple characters effectively and competitively in a reasonable time frame; not about needing to grind XP to play at all.

If you actually read what other people write, instead of just twisting it to serve your point of view, then you wouldn't be so confuddled. Try reading both of my sentences together and maybe you'll see it was consistant. Here's an example: It's an illusion that Anuhart has good reading comprehension. It's not an illusion that Anuhart repeatedly misrepresents any opinion that is contrary to his own. See how both statements are true, yet start with the same phrases you find confusing? Weird, huh?

Anyway, I think that's enough effort wasted on this thread. Done.