Motif of Renewal

[Jaada]

I don't know how the devs intended for us to use the Bard's new 6-point self-regen, but since it's unlikely that non-Bards will put 5 points into doubling its duration, is there any chance of the skill getting a 15 sec cooldown or refreshing its duration when hit (maybe via a new 6-point talent)?

[Cantspel]

Yeah I find it hard to believe any full bard will ever use that new motif, but for those who spec bard for a slight boost in survivability should really have 30 seconds at least on that buff.

[harrydesmart]

I'm fairly certain they added it in because of the popular high mitigation 7bard 51rs and 8 ranger tank build for some sustainability for when you do not have a bard in your 5mans.

[Jaada]

I'm fairly certain they added it in because of the popular high mitigation 7bard 51rs and 8 ranger tank build for some sustainability for when you do not have a bard in your 5mans.

If I can be presumptuous for a second, as non-dedicated Bards, and especially as Riftstalkers, we don't want to refresh low duration buffs; we already have to worry about two come 1.5 (with Phantom Blow being put on a CD). As someone who plays both a Riftstalker and a Bard, i'd hope for a new 6-point talent that refreshes the duration of your motifs on affected players that receive damage, with Anthem of Glory being made non-talented. 15 seconds is an annoying duration, and while a cooldown would be nice, it's still inelegant because Renewal doesn't stack with Regeneration.

[Reiz]

Seems like a totally useless skill to me.

[Jaada]

It's far from totally useless but it could be better implemented.

[charliekelly]

it should just be a 20 minute buff that makes you regen hp/tick ~150 hp at max level. it should also stack with motif of regeneration. if youre gunna spec bard as an offsoul, you should be rewarded with some sort of survivability. you lose A LOT of dps taking bard over some of the other souls.

[Dragedo]

If I can be presumptuous for a second, as non-dedicated Bards, and especially as Riftstalkers, we don't want to refresh low duration buffs; we already have to worry about two come 1.5 (with Phantom Blow being put on a CD).

you definitly wont have to worry about Phantom Blow. it has 10 sec cd while lasting 20 sec. i'd personally put it in a macro with Planar Strike.

. if youre gunna spec bard as an offsoul, you should be rewarded with some sort of survivability. you lose A LOT of dps taking bard over some of the other souls.

well well... the bard was, is and always will be a support soul. for survivability in a quest/farm spec i'd always chose 11 points RS


besides, i believe they put that skill in at 6 points for low-lvl rogues i believe, as the regen motif is pretty far in for a starter

[Jaada]

you definitly wont have to worry about Phantom Blow. it has 10 sec cd while lasting 20 sec. i'd personally put it in a macro with Planar Strike.

Oh, I know, and I like the change. The two buffs I was referring to are Rift Guard and Guarded Steel. I think moving Riftstalkers more towards situational ability usage and away from maintaining base soul buffs is a good thing, but it could go further. Something more in line with how other tanks operate and the latest Marksman/Pyromancer Pedastal/Ground of Power changes.

[Racthoh]

besides, i believe they put that skill in at 6 points for low-lvl rogues i believe, as the regen motif is pretty far in for a starter

That was the point of it, but it's still silly because at 8 points you have Invigorating Soul at 3/3. That was more than enough to keep myself going with the horrid spec I remember running as I leveled.

[Elth]

Directly from the patch notes:

* Bard: A little more low level survivability - More of a reason to take this as a 3rd solo soul if you're inclined to get some more survivability back

Pretty much sums up why they added it.