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    Default Trion Worlds, Inc. Update: Updated Terms of Use (effective August 1, 2012)

    In preparation for the upcoming launch of End of Nations™ and microtransaction functionality, we’ve updated our Terms of Use to cover some key changes that will be occurring prior to the game’s release.

    New Rules to Govern Virtual Property: Trion may offer the option to purchase Virtual Currency and/or Virtual Goods (collectively, “Virtual Items”). We have incorporated rules to govern Virtual Items to ensure that users will have a better understanding of their rights in connection with the use of such Virtual Items. Users with Virtual Items are granted a limited, revocable, non-transferable license to use the Virtual Items, and users have no ownership or property rights in such items. Virtual Items are non-refundable, have no monetary value, and cannot be redeemed for money, goods, or other items of monetary value.

    Monetization of YouTube Game Play Footage: Users may wish to participate in YouTube’s revenue sharing program by placing advertisements alongside videos of authorized Game play. Trion grants permission to participate provided that users abide by the restrictions on the advertisements set forth in detail in the updated Terms of Use.

    Addon Policy: Trion is proud to recognize the tremendous efforts in and passion for developing Game user interface addons (“Addons”). However, such Addons were not developed or tested by Trion and, therefore, Trion cannot make, and expressly disclaims, any express or implied warranties. Users may develop and distribute Addons provided that users abide by the restrictions set forth in detail in the updated Terms of Use.

    Please review the new Terms of Use for further details regarding the updates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walsingham View Post
    In preparation for the upcoming launch of End of Nations™ and microtransaction functionality, we’ve updated our Terms of Use to cover some key changes that will be occurring prior to the game’s release.

    New Rules to Govern Virtual Property: Trion may offer the option to purchase Virtual Currency and/or Virtual Goods (collectively, “Virtual Items”). We have incorporated rules to govern Virtual Items to ensure that users will have a better understanding of their rights in connection with the use of such Virtual Items. Users with Virtual Items are granted a limited, revocable, non-transferable license to use the Virtual Items, and users have no ownership or property rights in such items. Virtual Items are non-refundable, have no monetary value, and cannot be redeemed for money, goods, or other items of monetary value.

    Monetization of YouTube Game Play Footage: Users may wish to participate in YouTube’s revenue sharing program by placing advertisements alongside videos of authorized Game play. Trion grants permission to participate provided that users abide by the restrictions on the advertisements set forth in detail in the updated Terms of Use.

    Addon Policy: Trion is proud to recognize the tremendous efforts in and passion for developing Game user interface addons (“Addons”). However, such Addons were not developed or tested by Trion and, therefore, Trion cannot make, and expressly disclaims, any express or implied warranties. Users may develop and distribute Addons provided that users abide by the restrictions set forth in detail in the updated Terms of Use.

    Please review the new Terms of Use for further details regarding the updates.
    Does this mean End of nations is getting a cash shop? Or Rift and End of nations are both getting cash shops? If Rift is getting a cash shop you can save me the time of questing to level 50 so i can find a new game.. Thanks!

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    End of Nations will be f2p, rift not. So its just out of convinience to mix the terms of use in a more general manner. Seeing that trion will release more new games in the future this is a logical step to narrow legal issues.

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    Already posted this in another thread before i saw this "official" one, no harm in repeating myself

    Trion Worlds are just the publisher of End of Nations..
    The Developers are Petroglyph Games

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroglyph_Games

    Apart from that, i have no idea if a 'cash shop' in EoN will affect Rift

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    Trion will publish Warface too and Warface will be a F2P game with a cash shop...

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    The recent Reddit AMA suggested they're considering f2p for Rift as well after expansion (as pointed out in the massively synopsis of Reddit event).

    Either they should tell us now to save us the time we're going to waste till it happens, or drop the subject completely once and for all for the sake of everyone (not gonna happen, I know).
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    Quote Originally Posted by renthicya View Post
    The recent Reddit AMA suggested they're considering f2p for Rift as well after expansion (as pointed out in the massively synopsis of Reddit event).

    Either they should tell us now to save us the time we're going to waste till it happens, or drop the subject completely once and for all for the sake of everyone (not gonna happen, I know).
    That's stretching it a bit, don't you think?

    Scott was answering questions and kept elluding to Rift Lite being their "Free" offering. They said they are looking for more chances to get players that cannot pay and players that can pay to interact, but no where did he say look for it after the expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techie Will View Post
    That's stretching it a bit, don't you think?

    Scott was answering questions and kept elluding to Rift Lite being their "Free" offering. They said they are looking for more chances to get players that cannot pay and players that can pay to interact, but no where did he say look for it after the expansion.
    Correct. Hartsman did not say they were considering a free-to-play model. He merely recognized that some players are unable to pay for a subscription and that they may expand on RIFT Lite some time in the future.

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    The day Rift goes ftp is the day I cancel my 6monthly sub.
    The raid content that comes out now is good quality, compared to swtor going ftp this year and charging for raid content is a bad business model, pure and simply because all focus will be put onto cash shop items NOT raid content.

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    Ok well thanks guys i appreciate the info...

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    Quote Originally Posted by renthicya View Post
    The recent Reddit AMA suggested they're considering f2p for Rift as well after expansion (as pointed out in the massively synopsis of Reddit event).

    Either they should tell us now to save us the time we're going to waste till it happens, or drop the subject completely once and for all for the sake of everyone (not gonna happen, I know).
    Grrrr, sorry, don't read on if you don't like rants, but this is a pet peeve of mine.....

    Ranton/

    Sorry but people like you are the reason rumors start, twisting someones words to your own interpretation of what was said. They did NOT say this at all....

    Seriously, if your not quoting someone then just don't post crap like this, go 'troll' some other forum....



    /Rantoff

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    Quote Originally Posted by renthicya View Post
    The recent Reddit AMA suggested they're considering f2p for Rift as well after expansion (as pointed out in the massively synopsis of Reddit event).

    Either they should tell us now to save us the time we're going to waste till it happens, or drop the subject completely once and for all for the sake of everyone (not gonna happen, I know).
    Your basicly reading yes as no, and no as yes... stop trolling please, and work on your reading skills if you werent trolling..
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    well afaik i have not agreed to any new terms nor conditions within the game RIFT so ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixel Monkey View Post
    well afaik i have not agreed to any new terms nor conditions within the game RIFT so ....
    From the ToU that you apparently don't read.

    18. CHANGES TO TERMS OF USE, A GAME OR THE SERVICE
    Trion reserves the right, at its sole and absolute discretion, to change, modify, add to, disable, supplement, suspend, remove or delete, at any time, any of the terms and conditions of this Agreement, any feature of the Site, Game(s) (including Game-related Virtual Items, if any), Game Client(s) and/or Service, hours of availability, content, data, feature, gameplay, item (including in a manner which makes virtual goods substantially more, or less, valuable, effective, functional, common or available), service, server software or equipment needed to access the Site, Game(s) (including Game-related Virtual Items, if any), Game Client(s) and/or the Service, effective with or without prior notice; provided, however, that material changes to this Terms of Use Agreement will not be applied retroactively. If any future changes to this Agreement are unacceptable to you or cause you to no longer be in compliance with this Agreement, you must terminate, and immediately stop using, the Site, Game(s)(including Game-related Virtual Items, if any), Game Client(s) and/or the Service. Your continued use of the Site, Game(s) (including Game-related Virtual Items, if any, Game Client(s) and/or the Service following any revision to this Agreement constitutes your complete and irrevocable acceptance of any and all such changes.
    Your continued subscription constitutes acceptance of any changes.
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