RIFT Watch 19: RIFT 1.7 brings a big boost to Ascension

[DirtyLarry]

[QUOTE=Simulacra;3555253 (more warfronts, contested zones.[/QUOTE]


I heard some peeps in game talking about a future PVP zone in development. Any real info on this or just speculation atm?

[Divynewrath]

Don't forget fire auras for yourself and your weapons!! Oh, and a new fugly pet or mount!!

Honestly, I hope they at least toss in a Fire resist SM/Sigil, that's sure to cause mass butthurt to all the folks who already farmed a core for RotP.

Sadly, this is the problem with all MMO's. If they have been out for awhile, new 50's are vastly undergeared compared to long time players. End game loot constantly has to become more and more rediculously powerful for Hardcore players to remain interested. Truly it is the major fault of having bind on pickup items. Good for the economy I guess, but causes huge disparities.

We have no economy in Rift anyways, may as well let folks PL their newer toons.

[Pwnzsolo]

Wow so much garbage fit into one paragraph where do I begin.

1. "buffing lower ranked players so they (stand a chance)" Soo you're seriously saying that it's a bad thing to give a boost to very low rank players if the system matches them up with high rank players allowing them to not only be useful but to be able to hang in there if they out skill you?

2. "stats bumped up to be effective in warfronts" Again you are saying that this is a bad thing for players on your side to be effective at all if they get matched with you.. wow

3. " rifts pvp will fall harder than ever" Ever? what could you possibly know about "ever" in rift.. look at you're join date it's like last week ffs.

4. "Which of you high ranks want noobs to get bonuses" Every damn one of us that doesn't suck and that wants the game to be more balanced to attract new players with gear giving a slight advantage instead of a faceroll.

5. "havent worked as hard as us" This made me lol irl. First of all if you mean "grind" instead of "work" you have no idea how free your r8 was compared to getting r6 at launch. At launch you didn't have daily quests, afk (pvp) rifts, bonus weekends, extended double favor/prestige weeks, and two types of favor/prestige pots as if losing and still gaining rank wasn't enough. NOW if you actually meant the word "work" ffs you're paying money to play a game that you're supposed to enjoy playing and you're gona call it work?

6. "how is that fair?" just...LMAO

7. "guess theres no need to get your high rank anymore." I guess you had better learn how to play your class because the idea that you might not be able to completely faceroll a lower rank has got you really damn worried. ROFL

For one thing noob...been here since luanch quit and came back...so bout that sthu...Secondly Yes it is work...farming losses with undergeared noobs like you is a pain. Makes us wonder why we even pay for a game that becomes more frustrating trying to tell the same rogue with 4k health over and over to not steal the rune from a 10k health healer in Runemasters, ect. How can you even begin to justify getting a stat boost...its completely bs. We put in the time and effort and you sir did not. Basically making low geared people equal with the higher geared people makes it as if we arent even wearing that gear. So I ask you...if your going to have the same stats as a Rank 40 at rank 13...whats the point in progressing to rank 40 other than the weapons. There is none. We can only pray your lil buff you low geared people are getting is epic fail and not even worth the developers time..or yes most your rank 8s will quit...and anyone with half a brain willl quit...might as well get rid of ranks all together now cuss they are meaningless. Have fun with you laziness and handouts.

[Akillermon]

when the hell is 1.7 going live??? pvp as its now has killed my will to play completely. as an altoholic i have 6 50's and pve is boring is hell now as the leveling process is a joke. when is 1.7 going live??? pvp need to be fixed as of 10 1/2 months ago how much longer do we have to wait.

[CyberMees]

I agree and dissagree with many of you.

Well I dont think any serious r8 pvp-er will quit over some change. If you are good in PvP you still will be. Only the ones, that can kill someone now just becouse they get against r1 r2 and can actually kill em cos of uber gear, they got dieing all the way to r8, prolly will quit.
If you 'worked' so hard to get your gear, you should have lot more experience than r1 with even same gear.
Worried cos you might not have advantage no more?
Well 1st its not that bad, ppl need still favor to buy items and thats lot of warfronts too. And second I guess you missed part when they mentioned that instead of ranked gear there will be new three for ranks. So I'm guessing you still get your bonuses over r1 just in other way. And if the new tree will be 'just max out' for r8 then this patch is even more beneficial to r8, as r1 must farm favor to buy out best gear plus rank up, to max out new tree.
Only question would be, is new tree beneficial enough.

And if it works best for r1 then I dont think it's a bad thing. As most of r8 started rushing to that rank together so it was more balanced cos they were kind of all same rank range cos there wasnt not a single r8 when game came out. So why not give ppl bit boost now too as in reality r1 still face r8's in warfronts. Besides I think many r8's have 1 or more alt. chars to get from r1 to r8, so its helping everyone.

And why you so mad about it anyways. If you love so much PvP then you should be happy as you gonna get more r8's around you to provide nice decent fights. Or is that fear that makes you angry and quit.

Well dont get mad at me ... thats only my point of view. There is no negative without positive

[WriteThemWrong]

Sadly, this is the problem with all MMO's. If they have been out for awhile, new 50's are vastly undergeared compared to long time players. End game loot constantly has to become more and more rediculously powerful for Hardcore players to remain interested. Truly it is the major fault of having bind on pickup items. Good for the economy I guess, but causes huge disparities.

We have no economy in Rift anyways, may as well let folks PL their newer toons.

That's why there are itemization changes coming. It doesn't solve everything and but they are addressing it in a major way and early, and not in their third expansion.

[Riftplayer50]

For one thing noob...been here since luanch quit and came back...so bout that sthu...Secondly Yes it is work...farming losses with undergeared noobs like you is a pain. Makes us wonder why we even pay for a game that becomes more frustrating trying to tell the same rogue with 4k health over and over to not steal the rune from a 10k health healer in Runemasters, ect. How can you even begin to justify getting a stat boost...its completely bs. We put in the time and effort and you sir did not. Basically making low geared people equal with the higher geared people makes it as if we arent even wearing that gear. So I ask you...if your going to have the same stats as a Rank 40 at rank 13...whats the point in progressing to rank 40 other than the weapons. There is none. We can only pray your lil buff you low geared people are getting is epic fail and not even worth the developers time..or yes most your rank 8s will quit...and anyone with half a brain willl quit...might as well get rid of ranks all together now cuss they are meaningless. Have fun with you laziness and handouts.

I personally disregard this statement. Why? Because they trying to BALANCE PvP so that way other new 50s that reach the endgame can get gear for certain things like EI. You must be frustrated because now you can't one shot low ranks for prestige/favor and kill most ranks with one spell, because now you actually have to try to kill someone; your just afraid of a challenge. I like this because now there's no large gear difference, one r8 of anything could wipe a whole team because of the gear difference and the damage they do. I've seen a r8 mage fulminate a low rank for 9k dmg....is that fair? No. And its not fun either continuously dying from an overpowered class. I'm glad Trion is balancing the ranks because now people will probably PvP more for the gear instead of grinding for it. And I find it hilarious that you would quit because you will have a harder time now that your not so OP, so just suck it up and enjoy the game. And yes you don't work for prestige, you grind...not work, grind. Your paying to play and grinding Warfronts for gear so no, you're not working. Now that the ranks are changing, no one will have to grind really but I'm sure the gear will have to have the prerequisite armor to buy it. Btw nice spelling, and improper grammar, I applaud you. Go ahead and quit, no one's stopping you.

[bleachx]

For one thing noob...been here since luanch quit and came back...so bout that sthu...Secondly Yes it is work...farming losses with undergeared noobs like you is a pain. Makes us wonder why we even pay for a game that becomes more frustrating trying to tell the same rogue with 4k health over and over to not steal the rune from a 10k health healer in Runemasters, ect. How can you even begin to justify getting a stat boost...its completely bs. We put in the time and effort and you sir did not. Basically making low geared people equal with the higher geared people makes it as if we arent even wearing that gear. So I ask you...if your going to have the same stats as a Rank 40 at rank 13...whats the point in progressing to rank 40 other than the weapons. There is none. We can only pray your lil buff you low geared people are getting is epic fail and not even worth the developers time..or yes most your rank 8s will quit...and anyone with half a brain willl quit...might as well get rid of ranks all together now cuss they are meaningless. Have fun with you laziness and handouts.

Obviously a well thought out explanation for you was to much for you to understand. So I will sum it up for you.

U r wrong.

Quit posting you're making your self look dumb.

Spensa!!

[Alatarv]

Subscription based business models are all about the math. The math says this, "More subscribers are better than less subscribers."

When the top whatever percentage of players (2? 5? 10?) get so far ahead that the MAJORITY of players can't break in to the end game, it's time to either buff the majority or nerf the content.

I've watched the so-called "elite" players in this thread complain about this move, saying things like "they've put in the time" and "you don't deserve," etc.

Understand this, Trion Worlds has already decided your percentage group is expendable. Whichever portion of you remains... is a bonus to them. Now I'm not saying they want you to leave, they don't. And not ALL of you will. But when what's at risk is the BULK of your business model, you cater to the broad middle. WoW did it, Rift will do it, every successful themepark subscription MMO will do it.

You will never find an MMO that stays hardcore forever, unless it's a F2P with a pay to win cash shop. And I don't think you can really call winning with a Visa card "hardcore," anyway.

[Neolaina]

Subscription based business models are all about the math. The math says this, "More subscribers are better than less subscribers."

When the top whatever percentage of players (2? 5? 10?) get so far ahead that the MAJORITY of players can't break in to the end game, it's time to either buff the majority or nerf the content.

I've watched the so-called "elite" players in this thread complain about this move, saying things like "they've put in the time" and "you don't deserve," etc.

Understand this, Trion Worlds has already decided your percentage group is expendable. Whichever portion of you remains... is a bonus to them. Now I'm not saying they want you to leave, they don't. And not ALL of you will. But when what's at risk is the BULK of your business model, you cater to the broad middle. WoW did it, Rift will do it, every successful themepark subscription MMO will do it.

You will never find an MMO that stays hardcore forever, unless it's a F2P with a pay to win cash shop. And I don't think you can really call winning with a Visa card "hardcore," anyway.

This. And a few other posts, but this one for sure.

[Sarasyn]

when the hell is 1.7 going live??? pvp as its now has killed my will to play completely. as an altoholic i have 6 50's and pve is boring is hell now as the leveling process is a joke. when is 1.7 going live??? pvp need to be fixed as of 10 1/2 months ago how much longer do we have to wait.

Weddings will prolly coincide with Valentines day. So, it's about two weeks away I guess.