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    ITEM NAME: Akfon, Rejuvenator of Souls
    CALLING: Mage
    SLOT: One Hand
    ROLE: Heal
    STAT ISSUE: This upgrade from Ritual Abyssal Kris does not have a heal proc, whereas Akfon, the Shard of Forbidden Rites has as dps proc.

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    Is there a way to get the upgrade components for the weapons on PTS?
    Would be nice to see if they do proc rather than viewing the tooltip it say it has.
    This would allow you to test if Outrider's Swordbreaker (Rogue, Tank, One Hand) proc stacks or not, and if the procs do affect your own stats.

    ITEM NAME: Mordrig, the Dreadnaut's Call
    CALLING: Cleric
    SLOT: Two Handed
    ROLE: DPS
    ISSUE: The proc says 1535 Attack Power for 15s when it should be 1535 Spell Power for 15s.

    ITEM NAME: Aglinar, Beacon of Hope
    CALLING: Mage
    SLOT: Two Handed
    ROLE: DPS
    ISSUE: Has a tank proc, it should be either have a dps or heal proc.

    ITEM NAME: Andurig, Renewer of Spirit
    CALLING: Cleric
    SLOT: One Hand
    ROLE: DPS
    ISSUE: Does not have a proc, it should have the heal proc.

    ITEM NAME: Fakongric, Mender of Will
    CALLING: Rogue
    SLOT: One Hand
    ROLE: DPS
    ISSUE: Does not have a proc, it should have the heal proc.

    ITEM NAME: Grundor, Infuser of Vigor
    CALLING: Warrior
    SLOT: One Hand
    ROLE: DPS
    ISSUE: Does not have a proc, it should have the heal proc.
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    All of the procs should be updated to the correct versions now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bauum View Post
    I'm also not seeing a second weapon atm. Rogues always have a harder time gearing up because they don't get a 2hander, and I would really like if this tier would have more than 1 epic and 1 relic onehander. I know T1 has a healing one but that one seems to drop really rarely. With the amount of bosses Hammerknell has, it's surely possible to fit 2 epic DPS weapons and 1 healing one in somewhere in addition to the relic drop from Akylios. Right now it just feels unfair, compared to Clerics/Mages especially.
    yea it does seem rogues get screwed on this even if the drop rate is increased to make up for it, they just have less variety. Clerics have 2 different off hands(both look to have separate purple base drops) 2 different main hands(upgrades from 1 purple) and 2 different two-hand weapons. The cost to upgrade the two-hand weapons is the same as 1 hand which further screws rogues. Might be nice to make some new type of rogue 1h that always drops in sets of 2.


    Rilurh, the Vise of Nightfall
    Cleric
    Off Hand
    DPS
    No proc

    Hrulir, the Eternal Light
    Cleric
    Off Hand
    DPS
    No proc

    Edit: never mind, it looks like dps off hands are not supposed to have procs since 1h main hand procs are equal to 2h procs. I will assume 2 war/rogue 1h procs don't stack.
    Last edited by Accol; 04-14-2015 at 03:35 PM.

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    Item: Shawl of Tormented Souls (Boss: Murdantix)
    Calling: Mage
    Slot: Shoulders
    Issue: less spell power than T1 shoulders from store (compare to mage Frost Keeper's Shrouds).
    Also, less endurance than Icemettle Flappies (mage shoulders from Bulf).

    Side note: Why not just scale stats by 1.1- 1.2 for each tier rather than whatever you're doing now, because it's clearly not working?
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    ITEM NAME: Mantle of Restless Spirits
    CALLING: Cleric
    SLOT: Shoulders
    ROLE: DPS
    ISSUE: This item has spell crit as its secondary stat and due to the current itemization for both spell and melee crit in general it is a subpar item. It is worse than the t1 relic, marks, and dropped crit power pieces, this is including the better dream orb, and is on par with the t1 relic spell power piece 'statistically' though I would still value the spell power higher.

    I could make a similar comment for all spell crit pieces for clerics and I suspect this is the case for all classes. Only hit or weapon dps for rogues/wars could make these 'useful'.

    Pure spell and melee crit items have need an improvement for several tiers now as they are consistently the last choice for players when it comes to itemization. Dual stat items from last tier were a popular itemization.
    Last edited by Sencas; 04-17-2015 at 03:52 PM.
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    Item: Rune Vessel Fragment
    Class: Mage DPS Totem (Matron)
    Issue: Relic Upgrade to Lyriet, the Soul Mender, loses spell crit.
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    Item: Rune Vessel Fragment
    Class: Mage DPS Totem (Matron)
    Issue: Relic Upgrade to Lyriet, the Soul Mender, loses spell crit.
    Relic upgrade proc of Lyriet, the Soul Mender, has identical damage to Dead Dreams, a Tier 1 item.

    Base totem, Rune Vessel Fragment, only gains 53 spell power to Dead Dreams.
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    ITEM NAME: Pauldrons of Chained Souls
    CALLING: Warrior
    SLOT: Shoulders
    ROLE: DPS
    ISSUE: They have 2 upgrades: 1 to set piece and 2nd to Relic.
    Phys crit is so low that no warriors want them. They are a downgrade over T1 relics. Items with Physcrit/Spellcrit need to either be increased by x3 or removed all together. Players get enough crit from their main/offstat.



    Drops in general: We got these shoulders twice (off murdantix and Rune King). 2 warriors got them but neither are using because of downgrade. Other guilds have runebroken the gear.
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    After clearing HK for a couple weeks i have compiled a list with the known drops and what problems with loot in HK occure and are hopefully getting adressed

    Known weapon/offhand/range slot drops outside of Akylios

    Warrior

    2x DPS 2Hander (why 2?), 1x DPS 1Hander, 2x Tankshield (Why 2?), 1x DPS Bow, 1x Tank Bow = 7

    Rogue

    1x DPS 1Hander, 1x DPS Bow, 1x Tanking Bow = 3

    Mage

    1x 2H Staff, 2x 2H Tanking Staff (Why 2?, 1x Trashdrop?), 1x Healing Totem, 1x DPS Totem, 1x DPS/Healing Wand, 1x Tank Wand (not sure) = 6 or 7

    Cleric

    1x 2H Healing Staff, 1x DPS 2H Mace, 1x 1H Tanking Mace (drops where?), 2x Tanking Shield (Why 2?), 1x DPS/Healing Wand, 1x Tank Wand (not sure) = 6 or 7

    Summary
    Warrior, Cleric, Mages = 6-7 items
    Rogue = 3 items.

    Seems like there are alot of items missing and some items have wrong stats/procs and some other items drop too often:

    Why 2 different tanking shields for clerics?
    Why 2 different tanking shields for warriors?
    Why 2 different tanking staves for mages?
    Where is the tanking 1Hander for Rogues and Warriors besides from Akylios?
    Why 2 different 2Handers for Warriors, when 2Handers are much worse?
    Why only one onehander for rogues and warriors each?
    Why does the only other onehander from Akylios for Warriors and Rogues have the same proc as the dropped upgradeable 1Hander? Makes dualwielding T2 weapons kind of pointless for rogues and warriors.
    Why does the Akylios warrior onehander basically have the same stats (Attackpower, almost identical stats) besides having the same proc as the only other warrior 1Hander?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenjuroK View Post
    Where is the tanking 1Hander for Rogues and Warriors besides from Akylios?
    Warrior 1H Tank drop from trash, but it's not upgradable, like all trash loot.

    And i agree, the Itemization is total BS. At least 50% of the drops are Tank items, different bosses drop the exact same items and this almost every week, while other, more important items like 1H Weapons, remain a myth.
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