Pyro Ninja Nerf on PTS, again.

[Soulshield]

Should i say welcome to warrior side of bugfixes?
If the IC-proc so essential for your dps then i know why our mages talking about skill...how fast can u smash a button?
Still it seems like bug/exploit fix

[Primalthirst]

when played right it was a very large increase to dmg.

I never gained very much out of it, since it's oGCD it would be much more affected by latency than anything that can be queued.

changing it is equal to a 150ish dps nerf, and if u think that's small, I guess NG's only got Heist left as a good DPS. If that's a good thing, I guess casuals have finally win their war to stop being distincted from actual raiders.

Who is willing to gain arthritis/carpal tunnel syndrome the first is not a good way to measure player skill.

[Bellamorte]

PS: make Life Leech instant cast, keeps us in line with other classes dps wise. Also keeps the classes/spec not too overly complicated.

Instant- cast with a cooldown would be nice

[Vayra]

Instant- cast with a cooldown would be nice

Why should it have a cooldown? Vex doesn't.

[Primalthirst]

Why do so many so many people keep harping on about removing the cast-time of Life Leech.

Then it just becomes another mindless, nameless DoT like Searing Touch, Fire thing and Life DoT #2.

At the moment it's relatively unique and actually mixes up the rotations that it is involved in, that's a good thing and the added complication raises the skillcap for Mages, which is a great thing.

[fruktan]

How can it be a "ninja" nerf if its on the PTS?

[Chronoah]

How can it be a "ninja" nerf if its on the PTS?

because you won't notice the change unless you tested out by yourself.
There's no official note for it, nor does Trion plan on possibly letting the current players know about it.
Since 60% or more mages do not know IC could proc opportunity.

[Primalthirst]

because you won't notice the change unless you tested out by yourself.
There's no official note for it, nor does Trion plan on possibly letting the current players know about it.
Since 60% or more mages do not know IC could proc opportunity.

Try 99+%
60% wouldn't even know you can turn IC off at all.

[Cammyle]

Good I play with 300ms ping and I cannot toggle it more than one extra time for every cast. Sometimes even 1 extra toggle causes a delay.

[Xano]

yea if you toggle IC 2 times on every GCD you would gain an extra 100-250 dps over people who did not toggle IC on every GCD but did the 38/28 spec correctly. It was possible to maybe do it three times but only with very low latency.

It was just another one of those things that made pro mage >>>>> decent mage. It also made 38/28 WAY more difficult than it already was. when done properly your damage break down has like 18-20% fireball 16% CD 12 def 11 SV.... because you would have 2-3 times as many opp procs. Its how you can parse 3400 self buffed with consumables on dummy on live up from 3100-3150 without using it.

It needed to be changed, i'm not arguing that. In fact me and Odas are the ones who sat down and showed it to this GM so he could fix it. but if it had a 1 second cooldown and could still proc opp then we would not lose much dps and it would completely fix the problem.

The way it was fixed now EVERY mage will lose 100-350 dps. 100 dps if you did not know about the IC toggle AT ALL. Up to 350 dps if you did.

[Xtroll]

when played right it was a very large increase to dmg.

What do you meen "When played Right", Is that the point where you press 2 instead of the nr.1 macrospam when the proc Flashes in the middle of the screen?, or is it more advanced so it involves our 3'd an final key (Charge) skills?

[Kwerd]

kool kool, this shall bring your dps in check with other classes.

[Undrsiege]

Try 99+%
60% wouldn't even know you can turn IC off at all.

Well then this little decrease to the upper 1% isn't that bad afterall..

[Mirimon]

This is all the same sky is falling that warriors cry about:

Player perspective "OMG, I am getting nerfed big time, telling trion I will unsub now!"

Reality: The mechanic was generally an exploit or not actually working as intented and is described by TW as a "Fix"

pretty much anytime you hear TW say they are "Fixing" warrior, cleric, mage something or other those classes will instantly assume nerf, as they have become accustomed to that particular bug/exploit as being a part of their rotations and numbers. I need another barrel for these tears.

[Chronoah]

This is all the same sky is falling that warriors cry about:

Player perspective "OMG, I am getting nerfed big time, telling trion I will unsub now!"

Reality: The mechanic was generally an exploit or not actually working as intented and is described by TW as a "Fix"

pretty much anytime you hear TW say they are "Fixing" warrior, cleric, mage something or other those classes will instantly assume nerf, as they have become accustomed to that particular bug/exploit as being a part of their rotations and numbers. I need another barrel for these tears.

they don't compensate after the change, nor do they announce it, don't act like it's justified when it's not.