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    Default 11.7% Reduction in 2-Handed Warrior DPS

    Heya All,

    I was curious what the new changes would do to Steelwind's "Fiery Destroyer" PvE build so I ran a series of parses on both the Live and PTS server.

    A couple of notes:
    - I'm primarily a tank in my guild so my equipment is definitely not optimal for this build.
    - The parses were done with the exact same gear using the same rotations.
    - Each parse was 60 seconds long.
    - Boss Practice Dummy was the target of these parses.
    - Only self-buffs were used.
    - 12 parses per server were conducted with bottom two parses being thrown out of the results.

    PTS Parses (approx 60 seconds each):
    1 - 888 DPS
    2 - 863 DPS
    3 - 905 DPS
    4 - 907 DPS
    5 - 912 DPS
    6 - 984 DPS
    7 - 1080 DPS
    8 - 1010 DPS
    9 - 916 DPS
    10 - 893 DPS
    11 - 853 DPS
    12 - 888 DPS

    With bottom two parses dropped, the average DPS of the 10 remaining runs is 938.8 DPS.

    Live Parses (approx 60 seconds each):
    1 - 1052 DPS
    2 - 1075 DPS
    3 - 1133 DPS
    4 - 900 DPS
    5 - 1038 DPS
    6 - 996 DPS
    7 - 982 DPS
    8 - 996 DPS
    9 - 1194 DPS
    10 - 1034 DPS
    11 - 1087 DPS
    12 - 1018 DPS

    With bottom two parses dropped, the average DPS of the 10 remaining runs is 1062.3 DPS.

    This is a drop of 123.5 DPS from Live servers to PTS server or a 11.7% reduction in DPS.

    I'll let everyone draw their own conclusions as to the result of this little test.

    Thanks,

    Barakas
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    push your two buttons faster!

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    I'm under the impression that 60 seconds is kinda short for a parse test.

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    The sad part is the patch should never make it to live. Sadly trion wil screw up snd it will.

    P.S. The rogue changes are to over the top.

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    60 seconds is awful short for a parse. In addition, did you take into account the fact that Surging Energy is fixed on the test server, meaning you need 7 RB instead of 6?
    Last edited by AlienFromBeyond; 09-26-2011 at 02:33 PM.

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    That's about what I expected after they dropped the damage from interrupts, roughly 150-200 dps loss.

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    Deadly strikes?

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    surging energy fix + interrupts i think everything is fine other than that.

    i don't use interrupts to dps so i wont even see a difference
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liang Nuren View Post
    I'm under the impression that 60 seconds is kinda short for a parse test.

    -Liang
    lol, that may be.

    Running 24 parses for longer than that though is more time than I wanted to commit to this little test

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barakas View Post
    lol, that may be.

    Running 24 parses for longer than that though is more time than I wanted to commit to this little test
    So why not run 2 x 5 minute parses instead of 12 x 1 minute ones? In your live data, I'm seeing a 200 dps range between high and low, and only a 50 dps difference between the lowest of live and the lowest on test. If you showed a 200 dps difference between two 5 minute parses, then something is funny.

    Also dps difference alone is rather blind. If you have the total damage done from your ogcd interrupt from live, we can see exactly how much dps that accounts for. Then compare crits values between live and test to see if any particular ability is seeing an undocumented loss.
    Last edited by Randhi; 09-26-2011 at 03:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogmodon View Post
    The sad part is the patch should never make it to live. Sadly trion wil screw up snd it will.

    P.S. The rogue changes are to over the top.
    Awww what you are losing your speed bump 3gcd kills with rogues? What will you do if you cant just hit 2 keys while you roll your face on your keyboard?

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    ROFL why dont u go see his macro link for yourself. not all warriors are 2 button smashers the good builds arent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genulas View Post
    ROFL why dont u go see his macro link for yourself. not all warriors are 2 button smashers the good builds arent
    Yes, i'm looking for monthes for this third macro...
    It's a well keeped secret - no one warrior admits that he used more then 2 macros.

    /jocking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferago View Post
    That's about what I expected after they dropped the damage from interrupts, roughly 150-200 dps loss.
    interrupts should be used as interrupts not put in your macro dps spam button.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acex View Post
    interrupts should be used as interrupts not put in your macro dps spam button.

    Sure if you are a baddie but good dpsers will always insure that they get the maximum dps output and thus at least until 1.5 have their interrupts in a macro on fights that allows it.

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