10LikesErr, Devs are blaming QA testing, stay with us and remove the tin foil hat from your eye section.Originally Posted by CaptFailure
So are tinfoil hats all the rage this year?
Err, Devs are blaming QA testing, stay with us and remove the tin foil hat from your eye section.So are tinfoil hats all the rage this year?
Last edited by Taemek; 09-10-2011 at 09:35 PM.
Crit is still a bit of a sticking point though, since the original dev response to the thread was before crit was brought in to the mix.
For those interested, right now on PTS:
Warrior - 75% crit from str, 25% from dex
Rogue- 50% from both str and dex
Mage - 75% int, 25% wis
Cleric - 75% wis, 25% int
Given all the talks they had on making plate more appealing to warrs, the desperate buff most cleric dps needs, and that rogues at the high end were hitting crit cap already just through dex stacking (which might block future itemization and progression), it's hard to not see these changes as valid. Looking at my mostly T2 geared rogue itemization, we've got about 2/3rd str for dex, so our penalty to crit isn't severe, maybe 50-60 rating off the base stat and higher for any build using one of our 2 souls with 15% dex increase talents.
I would almost say this gives rogues a chance to stack strength now, since it would be the exact same as dex (str for 50% attack power, 50% crit, 100% parry/block versus dex for 50% attack power, 50% crit and 100% dodge). Hey, hopeful rogues might even stack it for the off-chance Trion ever lets us dual wield shields for mad blocking power.
Never the less, despite what we forumers tend to rage, Trion does actually crunch numbers and look at play effects in their testing, and since they have the direct formulas I'd wager they've got a better idea how it will all pan out than I do. I'm just gonna resume taking deep breaths and wait for Monday.
This. One thousand times, this. It's unfortunate that they broke stuff on the PTS that severely dampens testing, but until they fix that and testing resumes, this appears to all in all be a good change for the long term health of the game.
One can hope they would throw a bone to people who are getting screwed as a result of now being in the wrong gear, but I for one will not cry over it if they don't - something had to give, and so I've always made efforts to have other pieces of gear, not merely what was BiS.
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To be clear - we are not blaming QA at all. We didn't ask them to run a full QA pass since its Saturday, and it was a build for the PTS (which always has the caveat "stuff might be broken use at your own risk").
There are some changes to where stats are allocated from coming - I do not have all the details on that in front of me, but as far as I know this second, there is some bugginess that is affecting your stats that sounds like it is not intended.
No need for theories
Last edited by Daglar; 09-10-2011 at 11:08 PM.
Daglar, if you are still here, could you please comment on the changes to critical strike from attributes? Are those unintended or intended or somewhere in between? (Intended but the amounts are off?)
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#21 Trying to leave the office so I can go... play rift... forums pulling me back...
I do not know if the current values for crit are proper. I believe there are planned changes for it. I really wish I had all the information to share with you right now.
~Daglar
First they took away our attack power with a vengeance.To be clear - we are not blaming QA at all. We didn't ask them to run a full QA pass since its Saturday, and it was a build for the PTS (which always has the caveat "stuff might be broken use at your own risk").
There are some changes to where stats are allocated from coming - I do not have all the details on that in front of me, but as far as I know this second, there is some bugginess that is affecting your stats that sounds like it is not intended.
No need for theories
Now they return for our crit.
STAND UP AND PROTEST ROGUES!
Thanks for giving us all you know. We'll find out next patch, I guess.
Well Rogues will be officially dead if it goes live this way. /unsub
Thanks for your hard work!
Level 50 Cleric | Inq/Sent/Cab | Greybriar | Addon Developer | Cat Herder
You are unsubbing over a test realm. Lol.
Thank you Daglar! Go, play!
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If it goes live like this yes ofc
If this is what trion intends to put live, I'd ask that you instead scrub the rogue changes out of 1.5 and leave us be; I'd rather do 2k DPS than have 5 different specs that do 1.7k.
I'd rather play a spec that I LOVE and do 1.7k instead of being forced to play a boring, clunky, idiotic spec that does 2k for an entire dreadful raid.
Seriously, when you start valuing slight disparities in numbers over ENJOYMENT, what has gone wrong in your head?
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